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Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 23, 2011 09:05am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 742750)
There are acceptable distractions: having to use the restroom or having a food craving.

Baseball teams give out as part of their programs scorecards for fans to keep track of the stats themselves (of course not everyone does that), so there's more fan participation there that keeps the fan interest in the game.

My point was that (concerning cell phones & friends/acquaintances) public gatherings have turned into social gatherings to find out the latest happenings instead of all the focus being on the event itself.

I know for a fact that some people just go to sporting events just to be there to be part of the crowd & to socialize.

Some go to games just to watch one player, & will not watch unless that player is playing. Some go to games because they have nothing else to do.

Yes, having the score posted may be important, however why should all the focus in interscholastic athletics be the score? How about just going out & doing your best whether you win or lose?

Far too often in the media there's news reports about unsporting games because of what the score ended up as, where's the news reports about a game where both teams played their best & the score did not actually matter?

Interscholastic athletics are supposed to be an extension of the classroom, instilling good morales & values into tomorrow's leaders, how can that be done if all anyone cares about the score?

Know what the bottom line is?

None of us really gives a damn about any of that. We officiate. We worry about what happens between those lines on the floor. Everything else is just freaking details. And we really don't care about timer/scorers either unless they screw up. And if one of 'em does, well, then there's always another chseagle available somewhere to plug in. I hate to break it to you but we could probably teach an orangutang to do what you do. And that includes security too. It might be a damn good idea also. Orangutangs don't talk as much as freaking chseagles, and when they do they usually make more sense.

chseagle Wed Mar 23, 2011 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 742764)
You're right, look at this! How are fan's heads not spontaneously exploding at the wealth of information?

http://ericfleming.files.wordpress.c...er-450x300.JPG

No but the scoreboard operator's head is exploding due to having to change every digit by hand, in this example.

Major league franchises have the money to have such sophisticated systems.

APG Wed Mar 23, 2011 09:07am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 742763)
You missed the point where I said not everyone does do the stats on the scorecard.

Then again, baseball is relatively low scoring as is hockey.

Just throwing out suggestions even if a bit nonsensical, to get everyone discussing.

No I got your point. So what about people that don't want to do the stats? With your point about baseball, even if a fan doesn't want to keep score, there's a means for them to know the score, hits, and and errors committed...by way of SCOREBOARD!

There's throwing suggestions, then there's throwing unrealistic ideas that don't even make sense. Guess which yours fit in.

chseagle Wed Mar 23, 2011 09:11am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 742751)
Back to the topic at hand:

How about just using all NCAA Rules (or variations of)?

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 742753)
One problem with that is that there are 2 sets of NCAA rules, one for Women and one for Men. Which set are you suggesting the NFHS adopt?

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 742756)
Well since no one wants to implement the new NCAA-M 3-pt. line, NCAA-W Rules.

Can we please get back on topic, as evidenced above I did.

Welpe Wed Mar 23, 2011 09:13am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 742775)
Can we please get back on topic, as evidenced above I did.

You're kidding me. You drive us off into the Badlands with your non-sense and then want to turn around? :rolleyes:

Tell you what, why don't you quit polluting all of our OFFICIATING threads with your scoreboard/timekeeper/shotclock/guardianofthegameandallthatisholy nonsense that nobody really gives two rat turds about? It's getting old and I'm tired of biting me tongue over it. :mad:

mbyron Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:21am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 742746)
The word you are looking for is "nadir", not plateau.

You, sir, get the diction gold star today. :cool:

mbyron Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 742777)
You're kidding me. You drive us off into the Badlands with your non-sense and then want to turn around? :rolleyes:

Tell you what, why don't you quit polluting all of our OFFICIATING threads with your scoreboard/timekeeper/shotclock/guardianofthegameandallthatisholy nonsense that nobody really gives two rat turds about? It's getting old and I'm tired of biting me tongue over it. :mad:

Dude, what's the ignore list for, if not to lower your BP?

Welpe Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:32am

I feel a lot better now. ;)

And you know that doesn't work if everybody quotes him, ergo the troll in the baseball forum.

Raymond Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:38am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 742769)
Know what the bottom line is?

None of us really gives a damn about any of that. We officiate. We worry about what happens between those lines on the floor. Everything else is just freaking details. And we really don't care about timer/scorers either unless they screw up. And if one of 'em does, well, then there's always another chseagle available somewhere to plug in. I hate to break it to you but we could probably teach an orangutang to do what you do. And that includes security too. It might be a damn good idea also. Orangutangs don't talk as much as freaking chseagles, and when they do they usually make more sense.

Are you saying Charles Barkley could work the table? :D

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 742833)
Are you saying Charles Barkley could work the table?

As long as his arms were long enough to start the clock...:D

M&M Guy Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:44pm

Both of you are aware you're goin' to he!!, right?

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 23, 2011 01:23pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 742826)
I feel a lot better now. ;)

And you know that doesn't work if everybody quotes him, ergo the troll in the baseball forum.

Yup. So, we have to find other ways to vent our frustrations.

chseagle Wed Mar 23, 2011 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 742833)
Are you saying Charles Barkley could work the table? :D

Ok make that a new rule for all ESPN Personnel that do basketball games have to work the table a couple of games a year :eek::rolleyes:

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 23, 2011 06:07pm

Getting back to proposed rule changes
 
Gee - I think that's what this thread was about some time in a past life. How about this one:

If an official stops play due to an injured player, that player must leave and be substituted even if the coach is not beckoned, or that team must use a TO to keep the player in the game. IOW - just eliminate the "coach being beckoned" aspect of the current rule.

I know there would be some issues if this came to pass, but it could be fun to discuss it.

BTW - I really don't care how this would affect table personnel. ;)

APG Wed Mar 23, 2011 07:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 743057)
Gee - I think that's what this thread was about some time in a past life. How about this one:

If an official stops play due to an injured player, that player must leave and be substituted even if the coach is not beckoned, or that team must use a TO to keep the player in the game. IOW - just eliminate the "coach being beckoned" aspect of the current rule.

I know there would be some issues if this came to pass, but it could be fun to discuss it.

BTW - I really don't care how this would affect table personnel. ;)

What's the issue with the rule as written...and what would this solve? I don't see this speeding up anything. If you stop play and the player is good to go without beckoning the coach, I feel that would be faster than stopping play, making sure the player is okay, then telling the coach we need a sub or god forgive, take an unnecessary timeout to buy them back in the game.


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