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CalGuy Wed Mar 16, 2011 06:35pm

good and bad sports on display
 
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Welpe Wed Mar 16, 2011 07:08pm

Yikes...how, oh how, was that assistant coach not tossed?

just another ref Wed Mar 16, 2011 07:47pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 740589)
Because he didn't kick a basketball into the bleachers. Otherwise it would be automatic.

Except in a certain context in a certain area.

JugglingReferee Wed Mar 16, 2011 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 740591)
Except in a certain context in a certain area.

I see what you did there. You were cleverly referring to Rut.

Nevadaref Wed Mar 16, 2011 08:59pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 740592)
I see what you did there. You were cleverly referring to Rut.

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Adam Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:17pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 740592)
I see what you did there. You were cleverly referring to Rut.

Good thing I wasn't drinking yet.

just another ref Thu Mar 17, 2011 01:53am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 740592)
I see what you did there. You were cleverly referring to Rut.

How would I do that? I do not know anything about Rut's area, or the people he works for, of the context thereof. I'm sure Rut does what works best for him.

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 02:17am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 740630)
How would I do that? I do not know anything about Rut's area, or the people he works for, of the context thereof. I'm sure Rut does what works best for him.

I guess it would have been better if he used the F-Bomb. ;)

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 17, 2011 07:12am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740631)
I guess it would have been better if he used the F-Bomb. ;)

Peace

What is that?

mbyron Thu Mar 17, 2011 07:45am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740656)
What is that?

Don't be evil.

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 08:26am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740656)
What is that?

I don't know, but it is something that seems to get an "automatic" reaction from some officials where all ability to think goes out the window. :)

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 17, 2011 09:27am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740679)
I don't know, but it is something that seems to get an "automatic" reaction from some officials where all ability to think goes out the window. :)

Peace

I'd ask who said "automatic," but there were a couple who did. I will say this, I don't think most people mean the same thing with that word. I don't use it because there are exceptions to almost everything I could use it for; but I think others make allowance for the fact that there could be exceptions, even when using the term "automatic."

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 09:38am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740735)
I'd ask who said "automatic," but there were a couple who did. I will say this, I don't think most people mean the same thing with that word. I don't use it because there are exceptions to almost everything I could use it for; but I think others make allowance for the fact that there could be exceptions, even when using the term "automatic."

Not only were there people that said it was an "automatic" T, but there were others that made is sound like that was the only option.

But when I say there could be an exception or another way to handle it, then that cannot be even discussed. But we can talk about a situation that is very much explicit in the rulebook, but people find "exceptions" to applying the rule as written. It comes down to that we make decisions for all kinds of reasons whether these are for the right or wrong reasons. Not much different than what a political candidate says on the campaign trail, then when put in the actual situation in office they are more deliberate in what they ultimately do.

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 17, 2011 09:50am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740750)
Not only were there people that said it was an "automatic" T, but there were others that made is sound like that was the only option.

Oh, that would be me, talking about my area (and the other areas I've worked.)

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 09:52am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740757)
Oh, that would be me, talking about my area (and the other areas I've worked.)

Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:01am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740761)
Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

Peace

Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).

tref Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:05am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740761)
Well I can talk about my area(s) too. I have some options and in some places if I gave a T for that I would be the first one and the only one.

Peace

You're a leader JRut! Go ahead set the tone :D

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740769)
Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).

How could the rest of the country be oh so wrong? ;)

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:08am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740769)
Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind if I ever work in Wheaton (which, by the way, may as well be Chicago to the rest of the country).

I will say this to you again. I rarely if ever work a game in Wheaton. And to someone from Chicago, Wheaton is not the South-side and the South-side is not the same as Ottawa.

Peace

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:19am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 740771)
You're a leader JRut! Go ahead set the tone :D



How could the rest of the country be oh so wrong? ;)

It is not about being a leader or setting a tone, I just do not overreact to things people do like some do on this site. And I doubt seriously what we do here is much different than what others do around the country. The difference might be that not everyone officiates in the suburbs or rural areas alone. ;)

Peace

Nevadaref Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:23am

Since Bob clipped the OP, this will preserve the important part
 
A good many of the grown-ups pursue victory with venom.So far, we have witnessed:
• A scorekeeper for Santa Teresa of San Jose repeatedly pounding his fist with seismic force on the scorer's table during a boys game at Sheldon, bemoaning the officiating and hollering his disdain ("They're not that good!") for the host Huskies, who were rolling to victory. A Santa Teresa parent, seated nearby, offered this when a Sheldon player drove the lane: "Hammer him!"
That stereo sound of discord contrasted with a Santa Teresa mother who raved about the full-gym atmosphere, the experience for her son and her family who made the three-hour trip.
• A De La Salle assistant coach, in a Division I semifinal game against Sheldon, flew off his chair when convinced a referee missed a call. He pointed at the referee and shouted: "You (expletive) cheaters!" Maybe the referee was too stunned to offer a technical foul.
The hypocrisy, of course, is in how De La Salle plays. The Concord-based team doesn't just execute superb defense with fundamentals and effort, but hammers and hacks until something is called. A moment after Sheldon players graciously went through the postgame hand-shake line, trying to make sense of a crushing 47-45 loss, a De La Salle booster hissed to a despondent Sheldon player, "Go back to Sac, you punk!"


Adam Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:25am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740774)
I will say this to you again. I rarely if ever work a game in Wheaton.

Not really relevant, but ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740774)
And to someone from Chicago, Wheaton is not the South-side and the South-side is not the same as Ottawa.

Maybe, but from someone as far away as Des Moines, it's all Chicago.

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:34am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740782)
Not really relevant, but ok.

Actually it is very relevant if you live here. And another reason why certain officials will not get games in certain areas (post season and regular season).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 740782)
Maybe, but from someone as far away as Des Moines, it's all Chicago.

I know, when I travel and even when I was out of the country people assume you are from Chicago even if you live 300 miles away.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 740779)
And I doubt seriously what we do here is much different than what others do around the country.

And that's exactly what I've heard from officials and assignors in your area.;)

JRutledge Thu Mar 17, 2011 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 740832)
And that's exactly what I've heard from officials and assignors in your area.;)

I am going to guess you did not talk to many assignors from my area. ;)

Peace


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