T or not T, that is the question?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why is your distinction so important, but my distinction is not? That is what I do not understand. Where in the rules does it say that it is OK to use profanity if you are injured?

It's a local rule.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would talk to him and stated I would do that. But you seem caught up on the F-Bomb being so over the top that we must give a T. I even asked why the F-Bomb and not other language that I know are not seen as appropriate? Still waiting on that answer from anyone (I am not going to get it it appears).

Because, as I stated before, in most areas it's considered the big'n. Why is it worse than sh1t or damn? I don't know. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You could have. And that would have been better than assuming that someone on here work in the same places.

I'm not sure what you're saying here, to be honest. I didn't assume anything, I was just wrong. I've never actually met someone from Illinois that wasn't from Chicago, maybe that's why.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Relax it is sarcasm. People I am around do not call that a "bomb." I was just playing with you for God's sake. Stop taking yourself and this conversation so seriously.

I don't want to stop.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not what he said. He said only the bench could hear it and the opposing coach complained. That is what we were responding to, not how many feet you are away from the play you were or if someone else could hear it. I know of gyms where the bench is not close to the fans, so it is possible that only a few people could hear something like that. In other places the stands would have heard it. Again, all of those factors matter to me. That might sound like splitting hairs to you, but this is why that word is not an "automatic" to me. Heck a kid can get a T from me without me even knowing what he said, so I do not know why you are stuck on the language part as the only unacceptable part of this action.

Yeah, I know I added the 20 feet thing to make a point.

The only thing the kid in the OP did wrong was the word, so perhaps that's why?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We agree on something. But I really do not care what a coach thinks as I would probably inform him that I likely passed on language from his players too. We are not dealing with angels here.

Peace

With this, we agree on more than we disagree. But I'll add that I wouldn't have passed on a similar issue with his player. If it's mumbled under his breath and only I hear it (and maybe a teammate or two), I'll talk to him. If he says it so the opponents can hear it, well, wrong place wrong time kid.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's a local rule.

No, just you will be giving a lot of Ts if that is your only way to handle things in certain places.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Because, as I stated before, in most areas it's considered the big'n. Why is it worse than sh1t or damn? I don't know. It is what it is.

I obviously do not concern myself with "most areas." If that was the case I would not worry about darn side panels on jerseys. Oh, that is in the rules too and when discussed people said their state did not care about those rules. So why worry about what others do in "most areas?"

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure what you're saying here, to be honest. I didn't assume anything, I was just wrong. I've never actually met someone from Illinois that wasn't from Chicago, maybe that's why.

Just because someone here might live in the same region, does not mean we all work for the same people. Actually I am not aware of anyone here that works most leagues I do, despite our actual address.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't want to stop.

I see.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, I know I added the 20 feet thing to make a point.

I know, but not apart of the original conversation.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The only thing the kid in the OP did wrong was the word, so perhaps that's why?

Good, but this is why for me nothing is "automatic."

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

With this, we agree on more than we disagree. But I'll add that I wouldn't have passed on a similar issue with his player. If it's mumbled under his breath and only I hear it (and maybe a teammate or two), I'll talk to him. If he says it so the opponents can hear it, well, wrong place wrong time kid.

But it appears the words were said after a missed shot. If that is all that took place, I would rather talk to the player than give a T. I do not have to give a T to prove I am there and will not tolerate certain behavior. Heck we all the time weigh other actions, not sure why this is so different?

Peace

[Tio]

No way... calling a technical foul here would be a travesty. Have some common sense.

[DesMoines]

If I call that T, I'm going to having more than my share of cold drinks ... either from the bleachers or after all the 3rd, 4th & 5th grade "noncompetitive" games I'll be getting.

No effing way. (Somebody T me.)

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

No technical foul here...this is an honest mistake by the player who thought the game was over...we get paid for our judgment of the rules...use good judgment here.

Game is not over until the officials leave. You have no choice but to T. If not, you are setting aside a rule. If you set aside a rule, you have no support.

[refiator]

I am horrified by the number of you who would call a "T" in this case. Put the rulebook aside and use a little common sense.

[bainsey]

Common sense = "How come everyone else doesn't think like I do?"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by refiator

I am horrified by the number of you who would call a "T" in this case. Put the rulebook aside and use a little common sense.

While I agree with you on this play, the rule makers do not.

Also, the idea of using common sense should be used carefully; and only based on what's expected in your area. There very well may be locales where the powers that be want this called according to the rule and case.