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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:43pm
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Technical Foul Procedure

I know some rules are different in college vs highschool. Why is the technical foul procedure different. Watching Ohio St. vs Northwestern. Foul called on Northwestern on the ground. Then a technical foul. They shoot the technical free throws then the 1 and 1 freethrows. In high school they shoot bonus, then technical, then team receives ball based on order of occcurence. I know they do things differently, but why?
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:55pm
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I know some rules are different in college vs highschool. Why is the technical foul procedure different. Watching Ohio St. vs Northwestern. Foul called on Northwestern on the ground. Then a technical foul. They shoot the technical free throws then the 1 and 1 freethrows. In high school they shoot bonus, then technical, then team receives ball based on order of occcurence. I know they do things differently, but why?
If the team on offense commits a T, they lose the ball (and the other team shoots FTs). If the team on defense commits a T, it's just the FTs.

The college rules makers decided that wasn't "fair" so, in general, it's "shoot the T and resume at POI."
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 02:59pm
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The college rules makers decided that wasn't "fair" so, in general, it's "shoot the T and resume at POI."
It also depends on what kind of T that is called at the NCAA Men's level that might not be the case on the Women's side. There are a couple where they do not go to POI.

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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 03:18pm
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The NBE has a procedure that really defines the "role" of a technical foul in a game. When one is called, the game stops, they take care of the technical, then pick the game up where it was at the time. The theory is that a technical foul is a penalty for something that takes place "outside" the purview of the game so it is treated that way. Whether the penalty should be one shot or two is another subject.

I read a long time ago that this was the thinking behind how their rule came into being. I'm guessing it's been that way pretty much ever since the league started.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 03:28pm
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The NBE has a procedure that really defines the "role" of a technical foul in a game. When one is called, the game stops, they take care of the technical, then pick the game up where it was at the time. The theory is that a technical foul is a penalty for something that takes place "outside" the purview of the game so it is treated that way. Whether the penalty should be one shot or two is another subject.

I read a long time ago that this was the thinking behind how their rule came into being. I'm guessing it's been that way pretty much ever since the league started.
And the high school philosophy was completely different. The NFHS rulesmakers changed the penalty to 2 FT's and the ball so that the harsher penalty would act as a deterrence to unsporting acts. The idea was that if you were going to give up 2 free throws and the ball, you might think about it before doing something unsporting. The NCAA softening that penalty lowers that deterrence aspect. Who knows whether the NFHS rulesmakers will change their philosophy to follow too.
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Old Fri Mar 11, 2011, 03:42pm
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And the high school philosophy was completely different. The NFHS rulesmakers changed the penalty to 2 FT's and the ball so that the harsher penalty would act as a deterrence to unsporting acts. The idea was that if you were going to give up 2 free throws and the ball, you might think about it before doing something unsporting. The NCAA softening that penalty lowers that deterrence aspect. Who knows whether the NFHS rulesmakers will change their philosophy to follow too.
I was under the impression the NCAA "softened" the penalty so that officials would be more inclined to make the call. I believe the prevailing opinion among officials was the penalty was harsh (2 FT's and loss of possession in many cases), so they wanted to reserve the call for the most egregious of acts. I thought I remembered reading that the rules committee changed it so officials would be a little more inclined to make the proper call.

I haven't seen any POE's from the Fed. regarding needing to call more T's, or do a better job of penalizing behavior. I would assume if I had, it would be more likely they would consider lessening the penalty for the same reason the NCAA did. Jmo.
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