Stacked Cheerleaders, Pt. 2

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I was a cheerleader in college (D2) and had a blast.

Rich - this may be as good a reason as any to not have pictures, despite the mis-leading thread title.

Freddy, does your league, district, state, ets. have any cheerleader-specific rules? Before going to the site supervisor, make sure you have some backup for your requests. Remember, they spent time rehearsing and practicing to be at the game, so try not to unecessarily take away their part in the festivities. Around here, we also tend to work around the cheerleaders, as most gyms simply don't have the room. I have found that most cheerleaders know when you're there, so they have a tendancy to move out of your way as you move along the endline, even though it may seem like there's not enough room.

[GoodwillRef]

This is simple...move the darn cheerleaders before the game...I really don't care where the stand or sit...but WE MUST have room to work and MY personal safety and not the players is MY #1 concern. The players are a close second.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

. . . does your league, district, state, ets. have any cheerleader-specific rules? Before going to the site supervisor, make sure you have some backup for your requests. . .

No local or state rules. Made the request to one cheer coach earlier in the year who went to her AD to complain vociferously and had the AD tell her to shut up and listen to what we were telling her.
I could go to the state associate director, but he probably has about a zillion really important things going on now, so I'll check tomorrow with the site supervisor who is the host school AD and give him my request. If he's lukewarm on it, I can tactfully approach the cheer coaches personally by virtue of that citation in the rulebook which states that the official is responsible for a safe playing area, or something like that.
BTW, what was misleading about the title of the post? Oh...wait...I get it...sorry...my bad.
I'll be careful not to do that again. Not.

[Bad Zebra]

I was hoping the title of this thread meant something else and the Russian guy was back with more photos.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Rich - this may be as good a reason as any to not have pictures, despite the mis-leading thread title.

Freddy, does your league, district, state, ets. have any cheerleader-specific rules? Before going to the site supervisor, make sure you have some backup for your requests. Remember, they spent time rehearsing and practicing to be at the game, so try not to unecessarily take away their part in the festivities. Around here, we also tend to work around the cheerleaders, as most gyms simply don't have the room. I have found that most cheerleaders know when you're there, so they have a tendancy to move out of your way as you move along the endline, even though it may seem like there's not enough room.

For example, is there a post-game cat fight?

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Rich - this may be as good a reason as any to not have pictures, despite the mis-leading thread title.

Freddy, does your league, district, state, ets. have any cheerleader-specific rules? Before going to the site supervisor, make sure you have some backup for your requests. Remember, they spent time rehearsing and practicing to be at the game, so try not to unecessarily take away their part in the festivities. Around here, we also tend to work around the cheerleaders, as most gyms simply don't have the room. I have found that most cheerleaders know when you're there, so they have a tendancy to move out of your way as you move along the endline, even though it may seem like there's not enough room.

Are you kidding me...if the cheerleaders are in our way of the they of the players they are moving...period. I don't care how long they have put in practicing...if there isn't a game where are they going to cheer?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Are you kidding me...if the cheerleaders are in our way of the they of the players they are moving...period. I don't care how long they have put in practicing...if there isn't a game where are they going to cheer?

If they're really in our way, of course they get moved. I just don't make a big deal about it if they are close, and *might* get in our way. In most of the small gyms where this is even an issue, I'm not going to be "that guy" who is the one to move them, when they've been there all season without incident.

To me, it's like a coach chirping - if it affects me to the point where I'm distracted from the game, I will address it. Otherwise it's easy to ignore.

[chartrusepengui]

Then there are those that move the "less appealing" against the wall, and the "more appealing" forward.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

If they're really in our way, of course they get moved. I just don't make a big deal about it if they are close, and *might* get in our way. In most of the small gyms where this is even an issue, I'm not going to be "that guy" who is the one to move them, when they've been there all season without incident.

To me, it's like a coach chirping - if it affects me to the point where I'm distracted from the game, I will address it. Otherwise it's easy to ignore.

A coach chirping at me isn't the same as a potential season ending injury for me or my partner(s). I am "that guy" who will move them somewhere "I" think is safe me and the entire game. I have moved them so they are on the sideline...two years ago in our playoff game in small gym we told them they could use any part of the baseline and they ended up in the first row of the bleachers...the cheerleading coach wasn't happy...I really didn't care.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

A coach chirping at me isn't the same as a potential season ending injury for me or my partner(s). I am "that guy" who will move them somewhere "I" think is safe me and the entire game. I have moved them so they are on the sideline...two years ago in our playoff game in small gym we told them they could use any part of the baseline and they ended up in the first row of the bleachers...the cheerleading coach wasn't happy...I really didn't care.

+1 After all, it is a basketball game. Not a cheerleading competition. During 60 second timeouts the floor is yielded to them if they choose to use it.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

A coach chirping at me isn't the same as a potential season ending injury for me or my partner(s). I am "that guy" who will move them somewhere "I" think is safe me and the entire game.

So, what about players who come close to you - do you move them to help avoid *your* season-ending injury?

Ok, I agree that's a snarky comment. And, for all I know, we could walk into the same gym and agree that, for that night, the cheerleaders are a problem at that particular spot and need to be moved. Each gym, and each situation, might be different. I'm only speaking in general terms about small gyms, and making accomodations for everyone. I've worked in many small gyms without any issues where the cheerleaders are on the endline with me, and there's only 10-12 feet between the line and the wall. Usually they've been taught to stay out of our way when the play is at that end of the court, and they do a good job of it because that's where they've been for many years at that school.

Again, having cheerleaders close by is just not a big deal with me, unless something forces me to look at the situation closer.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

So, what about players who come close to you - do you move them to help avoid *your* season-ending injury?

Ok, I agree that's a snarky comment. And, for all I know, we could walk into the same gym and agree that, for that night, the cheerleaders are a problem at that particular spot and need to be moved. Each gym, and each situation, might be different. I'm only speaking in general terms about small gyms, and making accomodations for everyone. I've worked in many small gyms without any issues where the cheerleaders are on the endline with me, and there's only 10-12 feet between the line and the wall. Usually they've been taught to stay out of our way when the play is at that end of the court, and they do a good job of it because that's where they've been for many years at that school.

Again, having cheerleaders close by is just not a big deal with me, unless something forces me to look at the situation closer.

Most of the time they aren't an issue, but in our area cheerleaders have no clue what is going on in the game and don't pay attention at all. I had a 7th grade boys tournament that I was working for a buddy of mine and these 7th grade cheerleaders are on the endline from the lane line to the baseline. I asked them if they could move about half of them around the corner and we would be good...one of the cheerleaders looks at me and says NO! 7th grade girl telling me right to me face and they don't move. The second free throw goes in and I asked (told) them to move again...the same cheerleader gives me another "look", I then I told their coach who is sitting in the stands by us that if they don't move they can sit with her. She gives me a dirty look...what is going on with young cheerleaders and cheerleader coaches these days? By the way, they moved! LOL

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I asked them if they could move about half of them around the corner and we would be good...one of the cheerleaders looks at me and says NO! 7th grade girl telling me right to me face and they don't move. The second free throw goes in and I asked (told) them to move again...the same cheerleader gives me another "look", I then I told their coach who is sitting in the stands by us that if they don't move they can sit with her. She gives me a dirty look...what is going on with young cheerleaders and cheerleader coaches these days? By the way, they moved! LOL

Meanie!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

...7th grade cheerleaders...

'nuff said.