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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:16pm
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That's what I'm thinking.

Intentional foul at first, but if a stretcher is required, I'm chatting with my partner(s) about a change to flagrant.

By the way, why isn't the Peru player identified in the article?
Found it in 15 seconds with a google search.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:22pm
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Found it in 15 seconds with a google search.
Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:28pm
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Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
Many newspapers withhold names of minors if there could be a pending action. This student may or may not be in that category. I do not have a problem with it either way. If somebody wants to find out who it is, it is pretty simple to do. They did not censor his uniform number. Mole hill.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:31pm
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:40pm
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To him, it is a mountain.
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To him, it is a mountain.
Some reports I've read online claim that this team, and this player as well, have both crossed the line earlier this season. If true, I gather he's already started up that mountain.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 04:00pm
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Some reports I've read online claim that this team, and this player as well, have both crossed the line earlier this season. If true, I gather he's already started up that mountain.
It only follows. He is in Peru, after all.
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Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
So, assuming the perp is a juvenile, you're ok with publishing his name? I agree with the decision to leave it out.
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I agree with the decision to leave it out.
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If this is a "normal kid" he is mortified and bothered by his actions and their results, without it going more public than it already is.
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If this is a "normal kid" he is mortified and bothered by his actions and their results, without it going more public than it already is.
He's been ejected from a basketball game, not charged with a crime. It's part of reporting the events of the game. I'd publish it.
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He's been ejected from a basketball game, not charged with a crime. It's part of reporting the events of the game. I'd publish it.
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To leave out the flagrant fouler's name -- assuming it wasn't a simple oversight -- is to say, "He's just a kid. Let's not embarrass him." That attitude doesn't serve anyone. When someone commits an act such as this, embarrassment does and should come with the territory.
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Old Tue Mar 08, 2011, 10:39am
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To me this is like the play at the the end of the St. John's/Seton Hall game and the official here should have just signalled the intentional and then gave the "heave ho" sign ala Cahill. If that doesn't rise to ejection, I am not sure what does.
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To leave out the flagrant fouler's name -- assuming it wasn't a simple oversight -- is to say, "He's just a kid. Let's not embarrass him." That attitude doesn't serve anyone. When someone commits an act such as this, embarrassment does and should come with the territory.
I just think it's an editorial decision. One I happen to agree with, and one with which Rich (for one) disagrees. It ain't a big deal, IMO.
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He's been ejected from a basketball game, not charged with a crime. It's part of reporting the events of the game. I'd publish it.
It may be a part of the paper's m.o. to NOT publish names in these situations. Down here in FL, some papers DID publish the name of the offending player in the DeSoto incident. I am fine either way a paper decides to operate. But the debate on to publish or not to publish takes away from the incident itself.
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He's been ejected from a basketball game, not charged with a crime. It's part of reporting the events of the game. I'd publish it.
Yet. I can't imagine he's immune from charges simply because he was playing a game at the time he purposefully (making an assumption here) injured an opponent.
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