Nasty ending to St. John's at Seton Hall

[Nevadaref]

Nasty ending to St. John's at Seton Hall.
Lavin gets two Ts in about 3 seconds after yelling at one of the officials.
With about a dozen seconds remaining a St. John's player makes a hard foul to prevent a show-off dunk by Seton Hall, which was winning the game, and John Cahill called a flagrant personal and tossed him.

I'll note that he gave the intentional signal first, before making it clear that he was ejecting the offender, which is something that I've recently advocated in order to make it clear to everyone that the official isn't just calling a common foul since there isn't a signal for a flagrant foul. I would like to see the NFHS add that signal this summer.

What do others think?

[JugglingReferee]

I agree with you.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'll note that he gave the intentional signal first, before making it clear that he was ejecting the offender, which is something that I've recently advocated in order to make it clear to everyone that the official isn't just calling a common foul since there isn't a signal for a flagrant foul. I would like to see the NFHS add that signal this summer.

You mean like this:

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One Video Is Worth A Thousand Words

Billy, a picture is worth a thousand words. Video is worth 30,000 words per second.

[gslefeb]

He says (yells) "why did you let him over rule you"; Unless Lavin was on him the whole time (since the jump ball), I thought it was a quick T. The second T was well deserved.

Yes very strange how they allowed Lavin to coach through the time out.

The Flagrant foul was a good call. In my opinion, with little time on the clock Seton Hall should have not attempted a shot up by 12. I think the St John's player out of frustration reacted (wrongly) to the dunk attempt.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

He says (yells) "why did you let him over rule you"; Unless Lavin was on him the whole time (since the jump ball), I thought it was a quick T. The second T was well deserved.

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I don't consider it a quick T when the HC walks literally to the middle of the court to yell at an official.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't consider it a quick T when the HC walks literally to the middle of the court to yell at an officials.

Agree.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

He says (yells) "why did you let him over rule you"; Unless Lavin was on him the whole time (since the jump ball), I thought it was a quick T. The second T was well deserved.

Are you serious? Lavin went almost all the way across the court to yell at the official! And you consider that to be a quick T?

As for the second T and ejection - very much deserved.

Flagrant and ejection - very much deserved.

Hopefully the Conference office will get involved and hand down a couple of suspensions - one to Lavin and one to the player.

[mbyron]

OP title: "nasty ending..."

Nasty? Nah. All part of a day's work.

The officials did great, so it wasn't nasty at all. If players and coaches want to eject themselves, they're entitled to do so.

[tjones1]

Lavin wanted to go...his team was playing like crap. I'm not sure he should be suspended. To me, it looked like he said the magic words to get his team going.

As for the player, something should come down.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You mean like this:

I have lost track of how many times I have seen this video and it is my favorite baseball ejection video.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have lost track of how many times I have seen this video and it is my favorite baseball ejection video.

"You, are gone."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"You, are gone."

I give them an "E Ticket" for the ride to the bus.

MTD, Sr.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'll note that he gave the intentional signal first, before making it clear that he was ejecting the offender,

I thought he called the original foul an intentional, then dumped the St. John's player for taunting the Seton Hall guy he just put on the ground....

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I thought he called the original foul an intentional, then dumped the St. John's player for taunting the Seton Hall guy he just put on the ground....

How many FTs were awarded?

0:08	Flagrant Foul on Justin Burrell (Ejected)	70-84
0:08		70-84	Anali Okoloji missed Free Throw.
0:08		70-84
0:08		70-84	Anali Okoloji missed Free Throw.
0:00	End Game