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bainsey Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:35pm

Flipping off your teammate
 
High school girls, regular season.

A1 is a player. A6 is on the bench. A6 makes a snide, chiding remark to A1. A1 responds with flipping off A6.

Whack or ignore?

buckrog64 Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:36pm

Whack.

cmathews Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:40pm

situational
 
I would have to let the situation dictate...from across the court, most likely whack....running up the sideline right at the bench...hmmmm not so cut and dried...would probably lean toward a conversation about salvation.....(a come to jesus meeting)

jTheUmp Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:49pm

If I see it, I'm Ting it.

Mechanicsman Thu Mar 03, 2011 04:32pm

T. Like when a kid drops an f bomb really load and I T him. They say it wasnt directed towards us; it doesnt matter.

Adam Thu Mar 03, 2011 04:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman (Post 736326)
T. Like when a kid drops an f bomb really load and I T him. They say it wasnt directed towards us; it doesnt matter.

Well, it matters, as it could make the difference between T and Flagrant T.

Mechanicsman Thu Mar 03, 2011 05:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 736335)
Well, it matters, as it could make the difference between T and Flagrant T.

True of course. Id somebody comes to me and says f you he is done for the night. But I mean regardless of whom you are saying it to, it will be at least a T

Adam Thu Mar 03, 2011 05:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman (Post 736338)
True of course. Id somebody comes to me and says f you he is done for the night. But I mean regardless of whom you are saying it to, it will be at least a T

Fair enough. I knew that's what you mean, just thought I'd add a clarification.

Rich Ives Thu Mar 03, 2011 05:46pm

Is essentially declaring a winner of a cat fight a smart thing to do?

Adam Thu Mar 03, 2011 05:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 736359)
Is essentially declaring a winner of a cat fight a smart thing to do?

Not always, but putting a quick end to it probably is.

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 03, 2011 06:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 736359)
Is essentially declaring a winner of a cat fight a smart thing to do?

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Judtech Thu Mar 03, 2011 07:41pm

It would depend. My first thought would be to treat it like a UFO: I saw something but I am not quite sure what it was.

stir22 Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:49am

what about this scenario:

i was doing a high school game, and the home team was behind by about 30 and playing like crapola. their center knew it. after yet another opponents basket, he turned around, hands at his side, and said,"c'mon guys, play harder...i mean, f**K"...

not loud enough for hardly anybody to hear, (I didn't, i was transitioning to new lead in two man), but my partner did...whacked him.

if i'm the trail, i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

thoughts?

tjones1 Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
what about this scenario:

i was doing a high school game, and the home team was behind by about 30 and playing like crapola. their center knew it. after yet another opponents basket, he turned around, hands at his side, and said,"c'mon guys, play harder...i mean, f**K"...

not loud enough for hardly anybody to hear, (I didn't, i was transitioning to new lead in two man), but my partner did...whacked him.

if i'm the trail, i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

thoughts?

Depending... but I probably wouldn't whack here.

grunewar Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

If it's where "no one" really hears' it, that's the approach I take too. Usually with a "watch your mouth."

tref Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
what about this scenario:

i was doing a high school game, and the home team was behind by about 30 and playing like crapola. their center knew it. after yet another opponents basket, he turned around, hands at his side, and said,"c'mon guys, play harder...i mean, f**K"...

not loud enough for hardly anybody to hear, (I didn't, i was transitioning to new lead in two man), but my partner did...whacked him.

Too bad you weren't the T on that play :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
if i'm the trail, i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

+1

jTheUmp Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 736539)
If it's where "no one" really hears' it, that's the approach I take too. Usually with a "watch your mouth."

I guess I've done that a couple of times this season too. One of them went something like this:
Me: "You said 'truck', right?
Player: "What? Ummm.... yeah."
Me: "Good, because if you said something else I'd have to call a technical foul on you."

mbyron Fri Mar 04, 2011 01:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
what about this scenario:

i was doing a high school game, and the home team was behind by about 30 and playing like crapola. their center knew it. after yet another opponents basket, he turned around, hands at his side, and said,"c'mon guys, play harder...i mean, f**K"...

not loud enough for hardly anybody to hear, (I didn't, i was transitioning to new lead in two man), but my partner did...whacked him.

if i'm the trail, i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

thoughts?

Use the shift key properly to avoid giving the impression that you're an under-educated teenager. ;)

stir22 Fri Mar 04, 2011 03:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 736587)
Use the shift key properly to avoid giving the impression that you're an under-educated teenager. ;)

gotta be honest here...kind of techno-challenged. don't know what you mean. if i committed a sin, i apologize. i'm almost 50, and don't use the internet much. e-mail and about 4 websites. don't know much about internet protocol.

bainsey Fri Mar 04, 2011 03:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736627)
gotta be honest here...kind of techno-challenged. don't know what you mean. if i committed a sin, i apologize.

I think what mbyron means, stir, is follow the basic grammar rules we all learned. Capitalize sentences and Is. Just like in officiating, appearance counts.

stir22 Fri Mar 04, 2011 03:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 736628)
I think what mbyron means, stir, is follow the basic grammar rules we all learned. Capitalize sentences and Is. Just like in officiating, appearance counts.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. Many thanks. I will do that from now on.

/Again, thanks.

26 Year Gap Fri Mar 04, 2011 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736643)
Oh, okay. Gotcha. Many thanks. I will do that from now on.

/Again, thanks.

There are 2 people to watch out for on the forum. Mr. Annoying Spelling Guy is one. Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy is the other. You can put others on 'ignore', but the two aforementioned guys are omnipresent.

BillyMac Fri Mar 04, 2011 05:33pm

We Don't Need No Stinkin Capital Letters ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 736587)
Use the shift key properly to avoid giving the impression that you're an under-educated teenager.

My daughter sends me similar emails. I just assumed that the shift key on her keyboard must be broken?

26 Year Gap Fri Mar 04, 2011 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 736668)
My daughter sends me similar emails. I just assumed that the shift key on her keyboard must be broken?

You mean the F dash dash dash word?:eek::eek::eek::eek:

BillyMac Fri Mar 04, 2011 05:42pm

Capital Crime ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 736671)
You mean the F dash dash dash word?

No. More like, "hey dad. i love you. please send me money."

refiator Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 736251)
High school girls, regular season.

A1 is a player. A6 is on the bench. A6 makes a snide, chiding remark to A1. A1 responds with flipping off A6.

Whack or ignore?

I wouldn't ignore but would certainly pull the player aside to talk to her. I doubt
I would "T" unless it was really egregious, and caused a scene.

Adam Sun Mar 06, 2011 07:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 736533)
what about this scenario:

i was doing a high school game, and the home team was behind by about 30 and playing like crapola. their center knew it. after yet another opponents basket, he turned around, hands at his side, and said,"c'mon guys, play harder...i mean, f**K"...

not loud enough for hardly anybody to hear, (I didn't, i was transitioning to new lead in two man), but my partner did...whacked him.

if i'm the trail, i probably let it go, and talk to the kid as we head down the court...

thoughts?


While it's possible I wouldn't T for this (I've actually had success talking to coaches about this), I would be hard pressed to second guess a partner who did give one.


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