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grunewar Mon Feb 28, 2011 08:11am

Cheerleader T Almost Costs Louisville Game....
 
Technical foul on cheerleader nearly costs Louisville a victory - The Dagger - NCAAB - Yahoo! Sports

eyezen Mon Feb 28, 2011 08:43am

Pitino needs a T for his Colonel Sanders impression

Scrapper1 Mon Feb 28, 2011 08:46am

I'm not even sure why this was a T, considering the clock showed all zeros and the article said the horn had sounded.

Even if they have to put 0.5 seconds back on the clock, how is the cheerleader's action delaying the game? The officials will have to go to the monitor to find the correct time, so how did the kid's action have any effect on the game? :confused:

bob jenkins Mon Feb 28, 2011 08:52am

I saw a blurb on this on the Yahoo front page and thought I would see that chseagle had posted it here.

grunewar Mon Feb 28, 2011 08:54am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 734986)
I saw a blurb on this on the Yahoo front page and thought I would see that chseagle had posted it here.

At least mine directly deals with officiating! ;)

Welpe Mon Feb 28, 2011 09:30am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 734986)
I saw a blurb on this on the Yahoo front page and thought I would see that chseagle had posted it here.

Ouch. :eek:

grunewar Mon Feb 28, 2011 09:36am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 734994)
Ouch. :eek:

Yeah, I know, that one kinda hurt a bit.

While Bob and I have never been "close," that one smarted! ;)

mbyron Mon Feb 28, 2011 09:43am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 734995)
Yeah, I know, that one kinda hurt a bit.

While Bob and I have never been "close," that one smarted! ;)

I wouldn't take it personally. There's bound to be some chseagle blowback from time to time.

JBleach85 Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:21am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 734979)
I'm not even sure why this was a T, considering the clock showed all zeros and the article said the horn had sounded.

Even if they have to put 0.5 seconds back on the clock, how is the cheerleader's action delaying the game? The officials will have to go to the monitor to find the correct time, so how did the kid's action have any effect on the game? :confused:


This was a huge mistake that thankfully didn't cost Louisville the game. As for the technical foul it falls under 10.9d under Admin. Fouls, and team followers.

9d: Delaying the game be preventing the ball from being promoptly made live or by preventing continuous play...

That is the reason why it represents a T, because the male cheerleader picked up the ball and threw it in the air. As for the horn it went off after, he the male cheerleader, picked up the ball. There was about .5 left on the clock when Kuric flushed the dunked, so that is why they went to the monitor to find the correct time.

I hope that helps and clears everything up.

GoodwillRef Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:58am

I hope that cheerleader had his scholarship revoked!

Adam Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:01am

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Originally Posted by JBleach85 (Post 735010)
This was a huge mistake that thankfully didn't cost Louisville the game. As for the technical foul it falls under 10.9d under Admin. Fouls, and team followers.

9d: Delaying the game be preventing the ball from being promoptly made live or by preventing continuous play...

That is the reason why it represents a T, because the male cheerleader picked up the ball and threw it in the air. As for the horn it went off after, he the male cheerleader, picked up the ball. There was about .5 left on the clock when Kuric flushed the dunked, so that is why they went to the monitor to find the correct time.

I hope that helps and clears everything up.

So the ball went through the hoop, into the hands of the cheerleader who then threw it into the air. All this happened in .5 second?

GoodwillRef Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 735025)
So the ball went through the hoop, into the hands of the cheerleader who then threw it into the air. All this happened in .5 second?

The clock should have stopped on the made basket...it seems to stop at .5 and then start again and runs to zero.

Scrapper1 Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBleach85 (Post 735010)
This was a huge mistake that thankfully didn't cost Louisville the game. As for the technical foul it falls under 10.9d under Admin. Fouls, and team followers.

9d: Delaying the game be preventing the ball from being promoptly made live or by preventing continuous play...

That is the reason why it represents a T, because the male cheerleader picked up the ball and threw it in the air.

I understand what happened and the rule reference. But read the rule again. The technical foul is for "DELAYING the game". This cheerleader did not do that. The clock had already expired and the horn had apparently sounded. So there was going to be a delay anyway, while the officials fixed the clock.

The cheerleader's actions do not fall under the rule you cited.

Adam Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 735026)
The clock should have stopped on the made basket...it seems to stop at .5 and then start again and runs to zero.

Ah. Nothing like a home team timer.

Raymond Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:22am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 735027)
I understand what happened and the rule reference. But read the rule again. The technical foul is for "DELAYING the game". This cheerleader did not do that. The clock had already expired and the horn had apparently sounded. So there was going to be a delay anyway, while the officials fixed the clock.

The cheerleader's actions do not fall under the rule you cited.

That's if the article is correct in its description of the play. According to Bleach the clock stopped after the made basket, the cheerleader pick up the ball, and then the clock started again. The action by the cheerleader thus prevented Pitt for getting the ball at their disposal.

Guess we need someone to youtube this one for us.


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