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[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If the contact puts the shooter on the floor?

I'm just addressing your statement that sounded like you were saying if there's contact, it isn't a clean block.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I'm just addressing your statement that sounded like you were saying if there's contact, it isn't a clean block.

Poorly worded. We're discussing a specific play from a previous thread.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Poorly worded. We're discussing a specific play from a previous thread.

I was just clarifying for those that didn't know the context of the sentence. And for what it's worth, I thought JRut's and Rich's explanations in the other thread were pretty sufficient. I see the difference in this play and the one in the previous thread as, the player missed the ball completely on this play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

And for what it's worth, I doubt JRut's and Rich's explanations in the other thread were pretty sufficient.

I really don't care to debate this further with the belted one who scabs for $31 a game, but I am interested in what you mean by this....

[APG]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I really don't care to debate this further with the belted one who scabs for $31 a game, but I am interested in what you mean by this....

Umm...that's a complete typo. I meant to say, I THOUGHT. Don't even ask how I messed that one up.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I really don't care to debate this further with the belted one who scabs for $31 a game.......

Now you sound like a coach. You don't like the way things are going so you resort to making a snide personal remark. Classy.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Now you sound like a coach. You don't like the way things are going so you resort to making a snide personal remark. Classy.

Just as classy as using another thread and then using my remarks out of context.

Besides, you are using (as I mentioned earlier) the time-honored coach tactic of saying "if this isn't a foul, how can this be a foul" in the process.

What's good for the goose and all that....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Just as classy as using another thread and then using my remarks out of context.

Besides, you are using (as I mentioned earlier) the time-honored coach tactic of saying "if this isn't a foul, how can this be a foul" in the process.

What's good for the goose and all that....

Agreed.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Besides, you are using (as I mentioned earlier) the time-honored coach tactic of saying "if this isn't a foul, how can this be a foul" in the process.

There's a huge difference. The coach in question saw the plays. We often say to ourselves, "If he couldn't see the difference, there's no way I can explain it."

Here, nobody saw the play in question. If you want something understood, you have no choice but to explain. We had two plays (one with video, one without) where an airborne shooter was knocked to the floor. One you said was not a foul. The other you not only said was a foul, you said it was absurd not to protect the airborne shooter to the floor. I asked what the difference was. I thought I was asking a legitimate question, rather than prolonging a previous argument.......this time.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Poorly worded. We're discussing a specific play from a previous thread.

Which is far different from the play I had. No comparison whatsoever.

(BTW, I do consider getting the ball clean up top reason to excuse some contact that happens afterwards. A wild swing and a miss (of the ball) by a player trying to defend? Not so much.)

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

If the shot attempt is altered by the contact, if the player is put at a disadvantage in making the shot attempt, I'll call the foul.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

(BTW, I do consider getting the ball clean up top reason to excuse some contact that happens afterwards. A wild swing and a miss (of the ball) by a player trying to defend? Not so much.)

If the guy swung at the ball and missed, and in doing so contacted the shooter on his way down, why is this not incidental?