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tref Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:22pm

Your approach
 
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

Adam Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:24pm

Holy crap. If it is at all possible, I'll be there tomorrow. :D

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:29pm

HEY - if you don't want to work with me, just say so. :mad:

reffish Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 733985)
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

Sit back and enjoy the show!!!

CLH Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 733985)
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

Weird, my partners usually love working with me, they know noones gonna be on their a$$ cuz they to busy with mine! ;-)

tref Thu Feb 24, 2011 03:47pm

LOL ~ I'm a firm believer of the, "if you don't look good then I don't look good" concept. How do I discuss this without offending anyone?

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 24, 2011 04:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 733985)
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

You are not going to change your partner's personal tolerance level with any kind of pre-game talk. And you're certainly aren't going to be able to transplant your personal philosophies into your partner either. If anyone has any complaints or problems with your partner's conduct, then that's not your problem. It's the problem of whomever put your partner on the game... and he's the one that has to deal with it, not you. Just make sure that you both use the proper procedure if you do have to unload fans/coaches, whatever...i.e. use the AD, etc.

Just deal with what comes up and don't spend your time worrying about what may come up.

JMO.

tref Thu Feb 24, 2011 04:10pm

Makes sense, thanks!

Pantherdreams Thu Feb 24, 2011 04:36pm

In response to both the title of the thread and your question (with golf season on my mind).

Your approach: Layup and get on the green, in enough to save par. Going for it all in situations like this is almost never going to work out. Play the situation, not your ego.

26 Year Gap Thu Feb 24, 2011 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 733997)
Makes sense, thanks!

Just be part of the best two out of three.

Raymond Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 733985)
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

Maybe that person's personality was why that person was put in that particular game. Or maybe you 2 were put in the same crew to counter-balance each other.

Give your normal pre-game.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:05pm

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Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 734004)
In response to both the title of the thread and your question (with golf season on my mind).

Your approach: Layup and get on the green, in enough to save par. Going for it all in situations like this is almost never going to work out. Play the situation, not your ego.


Panther:

I prefer the grip it and rip it approach, :D.

MTD, Sr.

Adam Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:09pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 734037)
Panther:

I prefer the grip it and rip it approach, :D.

MTD, Sr.

Be the ball.

JRutledge Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:27pm

Just be a good partner and have a good pre-game. What they do with a coach is really not your concern other than what you do after a T (which you should talk about any game you work anyway). All you do is be on the same page and work your game. If you are a person on a board, just be professional. Not sure what you should worry about. Deal with them like they have to deal with you and work together.

Peace

Loudwhistle2 Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 733985)
How do you prepare for working a post-season contest on foreign ground with an official who is known for whacking/tossing coaches & fans?
You’re the least experienced (by years) but you’re in the leadership position & you just want to work well as a crew without all the other bs that you have witnessed personally & through the testimony of others.

I would do the best possible job you can possibly do and treat them like any other unknown partner. This "partner" will probably just make you look good if they are that "bad". Its tough when your partner is a veteran and probably won't receive correction. I rarely correct my senior officials, but I do give my opinion where I can.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Feb 24, 2011 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 734038)
Be the ball.


Snaqs:

How about:

YouTube - Caddyshack - Be the Ball

or

YouTube - Caddyshack - Chevy Chase shares his wisdom

MTD, Sr.

tref Thu Feb 24, 2011 08:59pm

Appreciate the advice, but I never said he was a bad official or that I didn't know him. We've worked a handful of sanctioned games together over the years (never one of this magnitude) and each time he has:

a. Whacked a coach
b. Tossed a coach
c. Tossed a fan
d. All of the above

He's actually a pretty good play-caller! Rabbit ears, failure to communicate & taking things too personal, are the areas I was speaking on.
Like most here have said, that is not my concern though. I cannot control that so we will handle it accordingly when & if we get to that bridge.

Thanks again!

JRutledge Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:37am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 734095)
He's actually a pretty good play-caller! Rabbit ears, failure to communicate & taking things too personal, are the areas I was speaking on.
Like most here have said, that is not my concern though. I cannot control that so we will handle it accordingly when & if we get to that bridge.

Thanks again!

Is he "Rabbit ears" because he takes things too personally or do you put up with more crap than he or others will put up with? Just keep in mind that goes both ways. Maybe he feels you will not take care of business and allows things to get out of hand?

Now we will not know any of this as we do not see him talking about what he thinks of you. ;)

Peace

Adam Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:40am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 734095)
Appreciate the advice, but I never said he was a bad official or that I didn't know him. We've worked a handful of sanctioned games together over the years (never one of this magnitude) and each time he has:

a. Whacked a coach
b. Tossed a coach
c. Tossed a fan
d. All of the above

He's actually a pretty good play-caller! Rabbit ears, failure to communicate & taking things too personal, are the areas I was speaking on.
Like most here have said, that is not my concern though. I cannot control that so we will handle it accordingly when & if we get to that bridge.

Thanks again!

Okay, you've convinced me. I'll see you tomorrow weather permitting.

ThatOneRef Fri Feb 25, 2011 03:11am

Noonan!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark t. Denucci, sr. (Post 734037)
panther:

I prefer the grip it and rip it approach, :d.

Mtd, sr.

noonan!

Judtech Fri Feb 25, 2011 09:02pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 733986)
Holy crap. If it is at all possible, I'll be there tomorrow. :D

You were supposed to be in Virginia last week!!

Adam Sat Feb 26, 2011 09:10am

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 734363)
You were supposed to be in Virginia last week!!

Sorry, I missed my flight.


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