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Mark Dexter Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:59pm

Re: Heeeeee's Back!!!!
 
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Originally posted by williebfree
Another "observation": (NOT "picking on" the individuals who made these posts)

Examine these statements: "If it had the potential to affect the outcome of the game..."; "If I thought there was a chance that the (incorrect) call would effect the outcome of the game..."

Why do I bring these up? They give credence to the mentality that the officials' call at the end of the game is more important than the first whistle! Comments?

I think you're right - our calls should be as consistent as possible: fix every clock error, a foul at 7:59 should be the same as a foul at 0:01, etc.

BUT

I see the "come in and fix stuff" like a 'get out of jail free' card - you really can't use it too many times in a game, otherwise the coaches, players, and fans are going to be questioning every call and demanding that the officials conference.

I'm not saying to not talk on a confusing situation (esp. double or triple whistles), but the change should be a very rare occasion.

ChuckElias Tue Nov 19, 2002 09:15am

Re: Heeeeee's Back!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by williebfree
Examine these statements: "If it had the potential to affect the outcome of the game..."; "If I thought there was a chance that the (incorrect) call would effect the outcome of the game..."

Why do I bring these up? They give credence to the mentality that the officials' call at the end of the game is more important than the first whistle! Comments?

The point, for me at least, is not that the whistle at the end of the game is more important. Rather, if we're in a 40 point blowout, then it's much more important to keep the clock running and get the freakin game over than it is to stop everything and correct a minor error.

However, in a 2-point game, especially in the closing minutes, it's much more important to stop everything and correct an error (especially if it's a glaring one).

Just my opinion.

Chuck

mick Tue Nov 19, 2002 09:41am

Confused by Chuck
 
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
.... Rather, if we're in a 40 point blowout, then <u>it's much more important to keep the clock running and get the freakin game over than it is to stop everything and correct a minor error</u>.

However, in a 2-point game, especially in the closing minutes, it's much more important to stop everything and correct an error (especially if it's a glaring one).


Chuck,
If we are talking about changing an "owee" or not, I tend to "not" unless my partner needs/asks/looks to be bailed out.

However, for me, the game is more important than the score.
The subs deserve the same treatment as the starters.
Let's fix those things, or not fix those things, regardless of the score. ;)
mick
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Until one team concedes, I shall not concede.




ChuckElias Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:20am

Re: Confused by Chuck
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
If we are talking about changing an "owee" or not, I tend to "not" unless my partner needs/asks/looks to be bailed out.
I'm sorry if I confused you, mick. I think we agree on this. If my partner misses an OOB and gives the ball back to the team that's down by 40, there's no way I'm blowing my whistle and going over to talk to him. Not a chance. Keep the game going. Nobody's going to care.

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However, for me, the game is more important than the score. The subs deserve the same treatment as the starters. Let's fix those things, or not fix those things, regardless of the score. ;)
For me, it's not about starters or subs. If the starters are still in and up by 40, I'm still not going to my partner in the above situation.

Just my outlook, I guess, but that one possession on a minor call is not going to change anything. So rather than drag out everything for a "nothing" call, I'd rather keep the game going. Just my two cents.

Chuck


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