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BillyMac Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:02pm
And Most Have Indoor Plumbing ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 732133)
where they only do two-man, maybe they don't have HUGE locker rooms for officials with multiple showers.
Hey. We're not that backward. Most of our schools offer two kinds of water: cold, and not so cold.

mbyron Sun Feb 20, 2011 07:05pm
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 732078)

As this all happened so fast, I was the only one in position to call anything if it was there.

I just couldn't be sure we had all the elements of a violation (mainly I just didn't have a good look at the player streaking that ended up with the ball) and to be quite honest, I wasn't 100% sure that the player alighted from the backcourt. Just a tough, tough call.
Under the circumstances when you can't check both, I'd say it's more important to get the OOB call right rather than BC. For one thing, a partner is more likely to be able to help with the BC call.

bainsey Mon Feb 21, 2011 01:22am
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 732150)
Save and COntrol are two separate items. You can have one without the other. In Rich's case, he had both.
That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.

As I understand it, A-1 in the frontcourt saves the ball from going out of bounds, and the ball is caught in the air by A-2, who has left the floor in the backcourt. This is where I asked him to commit to whether A-1 controlled it or not.

Big difference to make that call with confident knowledge, right?

Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 08:59am
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 732385)
That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.

As I understand it, A-1 in the frontcourt saves the ball from going out of bounds, and the ball is caught in the air by A-2, who has left the floor in the backcourt. This is where I asked him to commit to whether A-1 controlled it or not.

Big difference to make that call with confident knowledge, right?
He caught the ball in the air and passed it back to the court. Definitely controlled.

Adam Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:44am
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 732385)
That's the thing, Bob. Rich didn't say the saver definitely controlled the ball, but rather, it "appeared" that he did.
And that's all that's needed for the primary official.

Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:47am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732479)
And that's all that's needed for the primary official.
Since I'm the one that gets to make that judgment, "appeared" is good enough for me.

Into the home stretch now. My number of games remaining is now in single digits (9).


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