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chartrusepengui Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:21am

+1

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:24am

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Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 730676)
If you can avoid it, that's great. If you can't, you can't. Ultimately it's not our job to get the names in the book.

+1

Game management doesn't include looking for a reason not to call these "book" fouls. The rules have been in place for umpty-ump years. There's no reason for teams not to know what their pre-game responsibilities are.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:32am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 730704)
+1

Game management doesn't include looking for a reason not to call these "book" fouls. The rules have been in place for umpty-ump years. There's no reason for teams not to know what their pre-game responsibilities are.

One possible reason is a bunch of officials who bent over backwards to accomodate the coach and not call the T.

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:44am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 730712)
One possible reason is a bunch of officials who bent over backwards to accomodate the coach and not call the T.

Snaqs, after reading some of the posts this morning, all I'm wondering is whatever happened to "forget about worrying what the coaches and fans think or want and just call the damn game the way the rulesmakers want us to"? It ain't rocket surgery.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:45am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 730729)
Snaqs, after reading some of the posts this morning, all I'm wondering is whatever happened to "forget about worrying what the coaches and fans think or want and just call the damn game the way the rulesmakers want us to"? It ain't rocket surgery.

Yeah, I'm with you.

tref Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:52am

Worrying about something & being open to something are 2 different things.

And when I say be open, I dont mean during the course of the game. I'm talking about when I'm watching film (to improve for the next game) & a certain play that coach spoke on or fans went nuts on comes up. Sometimes I can see what/why they reacted the way they did.

CoachP Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:59am

Rsbq????

dsqrddgd909 Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:03pm

Rhythm,speed balance, quickness.

tref Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:03pm

Rhythym, Speed, Balance & Quickness... you know, freedom of movement.

Adam Thu Feb 17, 2011 08:44am

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 731108)
Technically yes, but there is a 5 MPH give there. Not all speedometers are going to be perfect, hence the 5 MPH cushion. If you've got cherries flashin behind you for 1-2 over, you've got an officer that is bored, needs some readjustment, is fishing, or needs that one solid legal reason to pull you over.

And for the record, I'm pro good peace officer, anti bad cop.

Just for the record, that "cushion" isn't a legal one. Try telling that to the officer who pulls you over for 4 over in a school zone.

Raymond Thu Feb 17, 2011 09:33am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 731174)
Just for the record, that "cushion" isn't a legal one. Try telling that to the officer who pulls you over for 4 over in a school zone.


As always YMMV. I was in camp last summer with a police officer. She said on the Interstate (barring any other kind of reckless behavior) she'll give up to a 13mph cushion before you get her attention.

Of course, school zones would be a totally different ball game.

Terrance "TJ" Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 731196)
Of course, school zones would be a totally different ball game.

Beat me to it.

Adam Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 731196)
As always YMMV. I was in camp last summer with a police officer. She said on the Interstate (barring any other kind of reckless behavior) she'll give up to a 13mph cushion before you get her attention.

Of course, school zones would be a totally different ball game.

Right, but if they do decide to pull you over (I've personally never been pulled over for less than 11 over, and I virtually always set my cruise at 9 over), don't bother asking about the "cushion."

M&M Guy Thu Feb 17, 2011 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 731275)
Right, as there isn't this unspoken 'quota' either. No cushion, no 'quota' but always your time and money. Its a broken system.

:confused:

If you can't do the time (or pay the fine), don't do the crime.

fullor30 Thu Feb 17, 2011 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 731108)
Technically yes, but there is a 5 MPH give there. Not all speedometers are going to be perfect, hence the 5 MPH cushion. If you've got cherries flashin behind you for 1-2 over, you've got an officer that is bored, needs some readjustment, is fishing, or needs that one solid legal reason to pull you over.

And for the record, I'm pro good peace officer, anti bad cop.

Precisely the point..........not interested in other stuff.


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