No time outs remaining, buy TO with T-foul?
 

Correct any of this that is incorrect (NFHS)

If team-A has no time outs remaining ("times out remaining" for some of you :rolleyes:) and requests a TO it is a direct T on coach. They are STILL granted the TO but when we return team-B is shooting 2 and get possession.

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Team technical, not direct on the coach.

It's a T, but not direct.

Soon To Be Published ???
 

If a team requests and is granted an excess timeout, then a team technical foul is charged. The penalty for an excessive timeout is assessed when discovered.

10-1-7.

Note that the team technical foul is for requesting an excess time-out.

Right. I read through 10-1-7 in an outdated NFHS book. I guess the question that I still have is if during live ball, coach without any TOs remaining REQUESTS a TO and they are assessed an team T-foul (indirect), are they still granted the TO or are their 5 players to remain on court for the 2 T-freethrows and we move right along with the throw-in. ???

Grant the t/o no indirect to coach on any Admin Ts.

They still get the TO.

Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.

Be careful about communicating the TOs to the coach. I tell him when he's out but that's it. I've heard too many horror stories about an official relaying erroneous information only to find out later the coach really didn't have any left.

We are required to tell a coach when he has no timeouts remaining.

Dang it Snaqwell, this is like the 3rd time today you and I have had a reply at the same time! :p

Actually, we are required to let them know when they are out of t/os.

That guy: DUhhh coach you have 2 fulls & a half *jogs over to the other huddle thinking he's doing something* coach you have 1 full left.

Coach: How many do they have?

That guy: They have 2 fulls & a half sir!

Cant stand working with that guy!! Because when they ask me later, I might say, "IDK sh!t, ask your assistant!"

The Royal We ???
 

"We" meaning the NFHS ???

"We" meaning an official...as you knew already. What's your point?

Can you not tell what I meant? Is this something different in IAABO land? :confused:

When In Austin ???
 

Wasn't sure if you were talking about what you do in Austin, or if you were referring to the rule as written in the NFHS rulebook.

One Left Coach ...
 

Not all officials. I've worked with guys that insist on telling coaches that they have one timeout left. Not my cup of tea, and not required by the book.

the way it's written in the book.

That doesn't preclude them from (also) telling the coach when the team has used all it's TOs, as required by rule.