Kid couldn't take the hint
 

Boys HS rec - first period ends and as they come off the court, A1 jumps up and snaps the rim on the basket. Partner T's him up. Third period ends and as they come off the court, A1 does it again. Partner T's him up again and he is ejected. Game over, A1 does it again. Called and recorded the T since we were still on the court, but didn't have to shoot FTs because team A lost by almost 20. My partner is sending a report in to the rec league Board and it's likely this kid will be suspended for one game.

A few yrs ago in a HS Rec League I had a player come out of a TO run over to the basket, grab the net, and then the rim and do a chin up.

WHACK!

Coach says, c'mon ref, there's only a few secs left and we're down by a bunch, why do you have to go and do that?

Me. :eek: Coach, are we going to let everyone do that? Is that Ok?

As a famous (or infamous) Forum Member would say, "Silly Monkeys!"

HS Rec Boys. Halftime. A1 uses net to climb up on rim, whack A-1. Just as quickly as A1 comes down A2 runs up and grabs rim, whack A-2. Gotta love the learning curve in some of the "rat-ball" games.

Do have a question though...

Our league follows "3 unsporting Ts on any 1 team = game-over/forfeit."
What does a "half-time dunking T" fall under?

Never had it happen but wonder if partner and I are going home early with pay if A1,A2, and A3 are knuckle-headed enough to whacked.

That's something for your league to decide.

(NFHS)
(Our league follows "3 unsporting Ts on any 1 team = game-over/forfeit.")

What does a "half-time dunking T" fall under?

Under NFHS rules, during half-time all team members are regarded as bench personnel. As such, anybody dunking the ball is charged with an unsporting "T" as per rule 10-4-1(i). The head coach also gets charged with an indirect "T" for each dunk.

Rec leagues? Check your local listing.

10-3-3

So, NoFussRef - where in Oregon are you located?

At half time?

"or during any intermission."

10-4-1i

I agree. During any intermission, all team members are bench personnel and are penalized accordingly. And that's why rule 10-4-1(i) is applicable in the OP instead of 10-3-3 imo. We teach our guys to use 10-3-3 during a period and 10-4-1(i) during intermissions.

BTW - having the indirects against the coach to lose his right to stand in the box was irrelevant because our local kids rec league doesn't recognize a coaching box. Over half our Board members are also referees, so who do you think makes the rules? It's good to be the king.

Next season, I think we're going back to all running clock games.

Interesting.

In an "unnanounced" change (iirc), FED added 10-4-1(i) and removed "during an intermission" from 10-3-3 between the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 books.

Thanks to JR and JAR for pointing that out

Apologies To Artie Johnson ...
 

When a player dunks a dead ball, it not an "unsporting" technical foul.

When bench personnel dunks a dead ball, it is an "unsporting" technical foul.

Interesting. Very interesting.

Eugene, OR.

15+ years doing Kidsports, Willamalane, and YMCA rec leagues. Done everything from 2nd grade youth games to Adult Mens rec.

(I know 15+ years and still doing rec??? must be lousy official hahaha)
Actually have been approached by the Association many times over the years, only problem was I worked swing-shift for a long time, and/or attended classes in the evenings. Not paying dues, to get harassed for not making meetings, only to have to pass on games because of my work schedule.

However that has changed and I intend to join Association before next season starts.

I don't think I've ever worked with anyone from Eugene, although I've worked quite a few games with officials from Salem. In fact, one of my sons-in-law was in the Salem assn. for a few years. No one ever gave him any lip, mostly because he's 6'8". :eek:

Don't get too hung up on "unsporting". It's a red herring in this instance imo.

Afaik, the intent and purpose of the new addition..10-4-1(i).... was to re-enforce the rules concept that the head coach is always responsible for his bench and that every team member is bench personnel pre and post game and during intermissions. That's why every technical foul committed by bench personnel is accompanied by an indirect "T" charged to the head coach. Technical fouls committed by players during a period though get charged solely to the player. Ergo, we now have rules coverage for both illegal dunking by a player and illegal dunking by bench personnel.

It makes sense to me. Kinda....

Unsporting ???
 

It was to answer an earlier post regarding special league rules for additional penalties for "unsporting" technical fouls. The NFHS is open ended on what an unsporting technical foul is, but does list many other types of technical fouls that are not unsporting, such as a player dunking a dead ball.

Between the second and third periods...while the Zamboni is on the floor?