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Beemer Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:02pm

A little comedic relief
 
Last night, I was working a Boys JV game when, on the first of two free throws, the shooter used his unbelievable touch to get the ball stuck on the back of the rim.

We blew it and gave him his second shot. I'm sure it comes to your surprise that the shooters team wanted another free throw, or the basket to count. I don't think so Tim.

Anybody else have this happen to them (or even a ball getting stuck on the top of the backboard)?

Freddy Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:10pm

Non Sequitur?
 
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Originally Posted by Beemer (Post 727814)
Last night, I was working a Boys JV game when, on the first of two free throws, the shooter used his unbelievable touch to get the ball stuck on the back of the rim.

We blew it and gave him his second shot. I'm sure it comes to your surprise that the shooters team wanted another free throw, or the basket to count. I don't think so Tim.

Anybody else have this happen to them (or even a ball getting stuck on the top of the backboard)?

I know it's getting towards the end of the work day, but am I missing something here? :confused:

I did see this once last year. Odds must be extreme.

Beemer Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:15pm

Ok I'll try
 
Here's the situation:
-First of two free throws.
-Shot goes up and gets stuck on the back of the rim (on the part that connects the ring to the backboard).
-We blow the shot dead when it stopped moving, counting the shot as a miss.
-We awarded the shooter his second shot.

The shooters team wanted us to give them another shot (so three in total), or count the first shot as a make (never went through the rim).

Freddy Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:31pm

Oh, Okay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemer (Post 727826)
Here's the situation:
-First of two free throws.
-Shot goes up and gets stuck on the back of the rim (on the part that connects the ring to the backboard).
-We blow the shot dead when it stopped moving, counting the shot as a miss.
-We awarded the shooter his second shot.

The shooters team wanted us to give them another shot (so three in total), or count the first shot as a make (never went through the rim).

I get it. I was thrown off by your phrase, "We blew it and gave him his second shot." I didn't mean to be a plumber/classical linguist about it.

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:52pm

I have had a lot of putts come to rest on the edge of the cup. I get an extra stroke, but that isn't what I wanted. In this case, it is like a missed putt as far as scoring is concerned. But the shooter cannot "Re-Putt".

grunewar Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 727858)
But the shooter cannot "Re-Putt".

Can he buy a mulligan? :D

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:30pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 727867)
Can he buy a mulligan? :D

Only if the other team fouls him again.

jTheUmp Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:49pm

Never happened to me when I'm officiating, but it did happen to my schools BV team back in my high school days.

I don't remember how they got the ball down, because none of the players on either team could jump high enough to touch it. Probably ended up using a practice ball to knock it off its perch.

Scrapper1 Wed Feb 09, 2011 09:16am

Just ask if anybody can get it down. When they do, it's basket interference. Administer the next free throw. :)

Adam Wed Feb 09, 2011 09:42am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 728067)
Just ask if anybody can get it down. When they do, it's basket interference. Administer the next free throw. :)

Only if the defense does it. If the offense does it, it'll be a lane violation first.

Scrapper1 Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:09am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 728073)
Only if the defense does it. If the offense does it, it'll be a lane violation first.

Not if it's already sitting on the rim, right? :confused:

Adam Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:11am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 728082)
Not if it's already sitting on the rim, right? :confused:

Crap, it's early. You're right.

Beemer Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:16pm

Yeah, that's the first thing that came to my mind too, until my parter reminded me that it can't be a lane violation.

RookieDude Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:46pm

Beemer...your real name wouldn't happen to be Ralph, and you are a little farther South in WA...because this EXACT thing happened to his crew last week.:)

Beemer Wed Feb 09, 2011 01:21pm

Are you saying they called a violation?

BTW Dan, I was reading through another post in which you said a varsity coach had been removed from the freshman game and then allowed to coach the varsity game. Any chance that happed at RHS?

RookieDude Wed Feb 09, 2011 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by Beemer (Post 728164)
Are you saying they called a violation?

BTW Dan, I was reading through another post in which you said a varsity coach had been removed from the freshman game and then allowed to coach the varsity game. Any chance that happed at RHS?

No violation was called.

And no...not at Richland. ;) But, it was at RVHS...a visiting coach.

BTW...might be in your neck of the woods in a couple weeks.

Amesman Wed Feb 09, 2011 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 728067)
Just ask if anybody can get it down. When they do, it's basket interference. Administer the next free throw. :)

Then wouldn't you have T-time under 10-9-3? (Presuming it's a defender, of course.)

Scrapper1 Wed Feb 09, 2011 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 728172)
Then wouldn't you have T-time under 10-9-3? (Presuming it's a defender, of course.)

Nope. Read the rule again carefully. What's the T for? Did that happen in our scenario? Why or why not?

Amesman Wed Feb 09, 2011 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 728181)
Nope. Read the rule again carefully. What's the T for? Did that happen in our scenario? Why or why not?

Oops. Meant to type 10-3-9 anyway.

So upon re-reading definitions are we saying this wouldn't be considered "outside the cylinder" during a FTA? (4-22) Ergo no GT? Thus no 10-3-9 infraction?

Or is it that 4-6-1 (or 4-6-3) applies here to make it BI? Still a bit :confused:

Scrapper1 Wed Feb 09, 2011 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 728195)
Or is it that 4-6-1 applies here to make it BI? Still a bit :confused:

Correct. No T, because it's not GT. It is BI. Ball is on the basket (ring, flange, or net), so touching the basket or the ball is basket interference.

Amesman Wed Feb 09, 2011 02:27pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 728201)
Correct. No T, because it's not GT. It is BI. Ball is on the basket (ring, flange, or net), so touching the basket or the ball is basket interference.

Thanks for the reminder. For some reason this didn't ever come into play even once in my girls feeder or freshmen games last weekend. :rolleyes:
Some day, some day ...


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