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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:09am
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Good block?

In HS, how would you call this?

Video: Sasha Pavlovic completely erases Sebastian Telfair - Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Looks like the official wanted to call block, but then changed his mind.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:13am
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I probably would of ruled a good block and the rest incidental contact.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:18am
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I'm not saying I'd be right, but I'd most likely rule a foul on this play. A defender can't simply run through an airborne shooter just because the try itself is over.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:22am
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Um, people, you do realize that you're discussing what is a foul in the NBA, don't you?

If you do figure it out, please let everybody else in the world know.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:26am
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Um, people, you do realize that you're discussing what is a foul in the NBA, don't you?

If you do figure it out, please let everybody else in the world know.
Nah, using NBA players to illustrate what I think is a foul in an NFHS game. Our association does it all the time with college plays, even though on some of them the rules are different.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:27am
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Um, people, you do realize that you're discussing what is a foul in the NBA, don't you?

If you do figure it out, please let everybody else in the world know.
I feel pretty dang confident in saying that's not a foul in the NBA. I've seen the play more than enough to see that it doesn't warrant a call at that level.

If you didn't notice, the OP said to imagine you were adjudicating under NFHS rules.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:40am
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HS: Tough one. My first instinct, at full speed, was to leave it alone...defender looked to be pretty vertical to me. Arms straight up when he made the block. Without the benefit of the replay, I likely would have swallowed the whistle on the foul and simply called out-of-bounds.

On the replay, at the last second, defender lowers his arm after swatting ball away and comes across defenders head. Gotta be a foul in HS. This is a good argument for making sure you watch the ENTIRE PLAY develop.


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I do know these facts about the play.

B never had LGP.
A was airborne before B was.
After the airborne contact, A's body was directed in a different direction and subsequently returned to the floor in an unbalanced way leading him to fall to the floor.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:54am
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Foul.
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Good block and move on.

I am more surprised that Telfair is still in the league.

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Great play, black ball OB.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 12:32pm
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Um, people, you do realize that you're discussing what is a foul in the NBA, don't you?

If you do figure it out, please let everybody else in the world know.
One of the biggest presentations we had this year was from a Hall of Famer in our association that is a former NBA official (retired in about the last two years) and is a current evaluator when anyone comes to this town to work a game. He used NBA plays to illustrate fouls and violations. It was one of the best presentations we had all year. And for one we talked about the same rules and similar philosophies without much debate.

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The fact that B was vertical is completely irrelevant since B didn't have LGP and B was moving into A.

B made contact before the block.

In HS, foul.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 01:12pm
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i'm not saying i'd be right, but i'd most likely rule a foul on this play. A defender can't simply run through an airborne shooter just because the try itself is over.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 01:29pm
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Foul. Contact changed speed/direction of shooter. Clean up top, dirty down low.
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