What do you say?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Didn't you say earlier that it's fine if we want to remind players? I agree that it's not our fault if they violate, but it gives us an out if a player did tell his coach that we didn't tell them they couldn't move.

"Well, coach, I certainly did tell your player that he couldn't run the endline". End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

I've certainly gotten myself into the habit of saying "Hold your spot" when applicable. It takes not even a second, and may be unnecessary, but I personally think it's a good idea.

If it works for you, hey, fine with me. I've already said that. But thinking that's it also an "out" is a non-starter imo. We don't need to have an out. Our "out" is that it's the coach's job to teach their player how to throw the ball in legally. It's not our job to coach players and it never has been. I don't have a problem with any official reminding players so they don't have to call a violation. But if we do have to call the violation without reminding the player, then there is nowayinhell any coach can blame us for his failure to properly coach his kids. Well, maybe he can try.

"Well, coach, it's your job to coach your players, not mine. I certainly don't want to interfere with your coaching." End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

That was my point.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

It's not our job to coach players and it never has been.

Yep...

In fact some might say you are giving the other team an advantage in doing so. OK...maybe that is a stretch, but check out the following story I heard this week.

Tuesday night my buddy told me about an "incident" in a GV game right before his BV game.

Visiting team down by 2 with less than a minute to go in the game. If they win they get a spot in the district playoffs. If they lose...they are out.

Visiting Coach puts in a little used sub...and somehow this girl (V1) ends up with the ball and takes a 3 pt. shot with under a second to go in the game. V1 player MAKES THE SHOT and gets fouled with .3 seconds left!

Visiting Coach tells all of the players, except the shooter V1, to not even line up...and to go to the other end of the court. Game Over...right? WRONG!

V1 attempts her first FT...and misses. The ball hits the rim and on the rebound V1, somehow or for some reason decided to get her own rebound.

You guessed it...V1 stumbled or fell into the Home team girl (H1), on the rebound, and she FOULED HER right before the horn sounded. 0 seconds now on clock.

H1 gets a bonus FT...makes the first to tie the game...misses the second...they go to OT and the Home Team wins in OT. Visitors miss the playoffs.

But, wait! The Visiting Team Coach PROTESTS THE GAME! (not sure when he protested...after his teams' FT and foul or after the game)

He states that the officials do not know what they are doing...they should have chopped the clock when the BALL HIT THE RIM on the FT.

Anyway...I guess if the official that was administering the first FT with .3 seconds left, had done the Coach's job and COACHED the girl to NOT MOVE on her attempt...maybe they would have made the playoffs.

Feel bad for the girl...from Hero to Goat...in a matter of seconds.

If only the Coach WOULD HAVE COACHED her, maybe she would have actually listened...maybe.