2-Man Mechanics

Rich

mbyron wrote
Logic: A

Grammar: D

😃

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All the words I want to use in reply keep getting edited.

BillyMac

tref wrote
In the IAABO manual it says the L officials may apply the A, B, C technique. We all know the difference between "may" & "shall" in the book.

That's correct. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed. And it's a true rotation with the trail moving across the basketline when the lead comes ballside.

At least that's what it says in the manual. In reality, around these parts, nobody uses this option. Never. When the lead comes ball side to help out with post players, it's just for that one play, and it's his responsibility to eventually hustle back to the weak side.

Adam

BillyMac wrote
That's corect. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed. And it's a true rotation with the trail moving across the basketline when the lead comes ballside.

At least that's what it says in the manual. In reality, around these parts, nobody uses this option. Never. When the lead comes ball side to help out with post players, it's just for that one play, and it's his responsibility to eventually hustle back to the weak side.

Page 24 of the mechanics manual. It says nothing about the trail moving over.

Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

mbyron

RichMSN wrote
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All the words I want to use in reply keep getting edited.

Do I need to grade your vocabulary, too? 😀 😀

tref

BillyMac wrote
That's correct. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed.

I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

BayStateRef

Snaqwells wrote
Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

Page 43.

Rich

tref wrote
I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

The L should have been prepared to signal a direction on this. I know if I go strong side, I may have to get one that shoots out on the other side.

Look, if a team's down 20 and I have to guess, I know how I'm guessing on that one possession. And it's not with two thumbs...

tref

RichMSN wrote
Look, if a team's down 20 and I have to guess, I know how I'm guessing on that one possession. And it's not with two thumbs...

We spoke about that at halftime as the the T in that play was also the assignor.

Your comment on the other thread, is NOT the case. Thats the reason I bolded the following.

tref wrote
Not that I want to give anything but my best efforts on the court, but getting 3 officials on all games will never happen if we keep working the 2 person game in such a stellar fashion.

APG

tref wrote
I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

That's a sacrifice going strong side in two man. As we all know, two person is a matter of sacrifices when we talk about positioning. I'll sacrifice the out of bounds play that doesn't happen too often for being in a better position to officiate.

Adam

BayStateRef wrote
Page 43.

Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

Adam

tref wrote
I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

My answer pretty much mirror's Rich's. I've had this very play in a FG game.

Now, why you guys are working 2 in a 5A game? That's a whole 'nother story, IMO.

BayStateRef

Snaqwells wrote
Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

That is my understanding. Since I started working college, it has been a big adjustment working the lead in the 2-person system we use in high school.

BillyMac

Snaqwells wrote
Page 24 of the mechanics manual. It says nothing about the trail moving over. Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

Adam

BillyMac wrote
Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

I've never used it, either. If I get a 2 man game with an experienced partner, though, I'll pregame it and try it.

26 Year Gap

As a trail, I work the arc, but I don't go over the rainbow. And as lead, if I go ball side, I go back from whence I came in transition.

KJUmp

rsl wrote
I've never seen this posted on the board, but it probably has been. It is worth reading what official's manual says about ball side mechanic:

2.3.3 Ball-Side Mechanic:
A. General Provisions:
1. The use of a ball-side mechanic should be thoroughly discussed at the
pregame conference.
2. Ball and player location key the need for movement by the Lead.
3. The Lead should only move ball-side when the Trail is in the frontcourt.

B. Coverage:
1. When the majority of players and the ball are on the Trail’s side of the
floor, below the free-throw line extended, the Lead should close-down
toward the near lane line and may move laterally to ball-side.
2. Playing action may dictate that the lead NOT initiate movement – even
when the ball is on the Trail’s side – such as on a quick shot or a quick
drive to the basket.
3. Movement by the Lead across the lane should be brisk and with purpose.
4. Even while moving across the lane, the Lead must officiate players in
the post (PCA). Lead should not be caught within the key area except
when moving across or just briefly to view a play or drive to the basket
from the Trail side of the court.
5. When the Lead moves across the lane, the Lead’s PCA is extended to include
the area inside the arc. See Diagram 2-20.
6. When the ball moves inside the three-point arc, the Lead is now on-ball
and the trail must extend coverage to assist with the open area on
the opposite side. See Diagram 2-21.
7. If the majority of players or the ball swings back to the opposite side,
the Lead should begin to quickly move back across the lane to cover the play.
See Diagram 2-22.
8. If there is a quick shot or drive to the basket and the Lead is still on the
same side of the court as the Trail, the Lead should close down to the
near lane-line extended and officiate rebounding action.
9. If a transition to the other end of the court occurs when the Lead is ballside,
the Lead must remember to go back to the other side of the court
and into diagonal coverage.

rsi...Thanks for posting this. As a newer official (still struggling with my mechanics as Lead) this is very helpful.
Quick question, is the reference you cite IABBO? My board is not IABBO and follows a "mix" a mechanics.

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