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Adam Wed Feb 02, 2011 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 725217)
I'm big on life lessons. :D

I'm still getting used to the kindlier gentlier JR. Always thinking of others.

bainsey Wed Feb 02, 2011 02:17pm

Okay, in spirit, I agree with JR. :eek:

Still, I'm not entirely sure "Call it both ways!" is questioning my integrity, but it's still an order (unlike the declarative sentence "They are doing the same thing down there"), and I don't like orders, unless they come from my boss or a customer. To me, phrasing is important.

But, that's me. Some others see it differently. I heard "CIBW" from a coach some time ago while I was in transition from L to T, but was pretty hard to go with Snaq's #2 at that moment. Had I gone with #3, I'm sure I would have heard that she's NEVER been T'd up for that before, and it probably would have been true, as evident by the varying views here on this sentence. (I went with #1 that time. I had to shut down that coach later.)

Since it means different things to different people, perhaps #2 is the best way to go. Coaches don't know your limits until they know you, and I think we vary too much on this issue to go with an immediate whack, no matter how much it bothers us.

stir22 Wed Feb 02, 2011 02:45pm

thanks for the responses; still relatively new (end of 3rd year), and learning where the (and my own personal) line is set. my first year i had two instances of coaches going nuts on the sideline, and, quite frankly, didn't know what to do, so i did nothing. Now, having almost 3 full years under my belt i would whack them in a heartbeat for that behavior. i just like to envision as many scenarios in my head before the games, in case they come up.

BktBallRef Wed Feb 02, 2011 09:19pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 725241)
Okay, in spirit, I agree with JR. :eek:

Still, I'm not entirely sure "Call it both ways!" is questioning my integrity, but it's still an order (unlike the declarative sentence "They are doing the same thing down there"), and I don't like orders, unless they come from my boss or a customer. To me, phrasing is important.

But, that's me. Some others see it differently. I heard "CIBW" from a coach some time ago while I was in transition from L to T, but was pretty hard to go with Snaq's #2 at that moment. Had I gone with #3, I'm sure I would have heard that she's NEVER been T'd up for that before, and it probably would have been true, as evident by the varying views here on this sentence. (I went with #1 that time. I had to shut down that coach later.)

Since it means different things to different people, perhaps #2 is the best way to go. Coaches don't know your limits until they know you, and I think we vary too much on this issue to go with an immediate whack, no matter how much it bothers us.


Pretty sure Snaq is talking about a progression, not 3 options.

You might ignore it the first time but the second time deserves a stop sign. "Coach, I've heard enough." If he does it again, WHACK!

Adam Wed Feb 02, 2011 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 725459)
Pretty sure Snaq is talking about a progression, not 3 options.

You might ignore it the first time but the second time deserves a stop sign. "Coach, I've heard enough." If he does it again, WHACK!

That's how I approach it, but for some these are options. Woddy goes straight to the T. Others never hear it out of some stupid fear of being labeled "rabbit ears."

BktBallRef Wed Feb 02, 2011 09:45pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 725465)
Others never hear it out of some stupid fear of being labeled "rabbit ears."

Yep, I noticed but just left it alone. "Rabbit ears" is to coaches as "over the back" is to TV announcers.


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