HS Coaches/Players fined for ejection
 

A few years ago our state HS assn implemented a personal fine for ejection from a HS game. $300 for first offense, $500 for second, if there's a third offense...don't come back. As stated, its a personal fine and cannot be paid by the school.

It has been VERY effective. Does your state have as strict a policy as this?

Players are fined just like coaches?

Our state requires ejected coaches to take an online class that supposedly takes about an hour to complete. They have to pay for it as well, and I think it's $35.

In Ohio: for coaches (not players), $100 fine plus taking the NFHS coaching behavioral retraining course (or whatever it's called).

I just learned last week that nearly twice as many girls varsity coaches than boys varsity coaches have been ejected this season.

We have one school system that has a very SEVERE ejection policy for the coaches. You get ejected, you lose your job. Not just your coaching job but YOUR JOB!!!
I also think there is a State Policy as well but don't know it off the top of my head.

Do people who officiate games in that school system feel a little less inclined to pull the trigger on a second T? I think that penalty is a bit over the top for one ejection, but I do bet coaches are on their best behavior after they're handed a T.

Never been an issue really. The boys coach is super to work with. When he does get 'exercised' an explaination is all that it takes to settle him down. He may not like/agree with it but he moves on. On the girls side they have had a parade of coaches and they have all been fine. Word on the street was this was put more in place for baseball and football (although not sure how you can get ejected in a FB game. )

Wow you as an official have the power to send a coach and his family into potential poverty.
Has anyone actually lost their job because of this?

In West Virginia if a coach is ejected, they lose 10% of their pay for the year for each ejection.

If you get paid $2,000 you lose $200. ( you also miss 2 games of coaching. )

11 years I have never ejected a coach, only had one come close.

Two USC flags or one flagrant USC flag = ejection

That's their rule. We're supposed to follow OUR rules. And while doing so, we're supposed to penalize unsporting conduct.

That policy should have absolutely NO affect on how a game is called by the officials.

I don't know, but I've been told....that a few years ago the HC and an official were having a difference of opinion and the coach got rung up. He must have been having a bad day b/c apparently the AC and AD were right there at the bench trying to calm him down (successfully) Apparently, it was ''touch and go" for a bit. I DO know that this official did NOT know about the ejection policy.
I have never had an issue in his games although I did have to hurdle him once as he was squatting in front of his bench and I was running up the sidelines (OOB)!! Maybe that put the fear of God in him!!

Does the policy only include direct T's to the head coach and not indirect T's? What happens if the coach gets an unsporting T and later on, we have to charge another T to the coach for an illegal uniform? I don't think that's what the policy was intended for.

I would imagine they have some type of appeal process but I don't know the ins and outs of that districts policies for appeal/arbitration. My first response would be Yes with the school citing the fact that had the coach not gotten the direct T then nothing else matters.

I could see how this could go bad without an appeals process of sorts.

Coach lists all his starters as required, but has to change due to an injury. Official mistakenly a) gives technical foul and b) charges it to the coach.

Later, at half-time, A1 is shooting layups when the official thinks he got to close and charges him a technical foul for dunking.

Midway through the third quarter, a technical foul is called on A1 (on the court) for dead ball contact. During the FTs, the assistant coach directs all the players to stand immediately behind the 3 pt line. The official charges the assistant coach with a T for directing the players to break a rule.

I know, it's far fetched....

Yeah, especially this part. Simply ludicrous. It would be MORE believeable if it was in the 4th quarter...but even THEN cant see an AC EVER doing something like this:eek:

I would guess the firing due to being ejected from a game would be more along the lines of his personal conduct (outbursts, etc) than an indirect T followed by a direct T (or vice versa). Either way I would think the possibility of being ejecte dand thus fired would cause most coaches to stay calm - at least while on the sidelines of a game

I assume that only applies if the coach works for the school district. There's no way you could enforce that if he works for a private business.

In which state is this, Jud?

I would say that if he coached at a private school, especially a Christian school, that it would be possible.

Bainsey is talking about coaches who work "day jobs" outside of the school and coach in the evenings. Clearly outside of the school's jurisdiction and not what this particular school policy refers to. Bainsey is either confused or facetious.

So, 3 pre-game dunks can get rid of a guy?

More like astonished. Of course, I was only talking about scholastic employment.

Still, Robby makes a fair point about private schools, which don't typically fall within the realm of "school district." (Yes, there are private schools which municipalities send their kids, but I digress.) Private schools could hold such coaches accountable, but to the degree of termination? It doesn't sound like the punishment fits the crime.

I'd like to think a hearing would be in place first, instead of a hard, fast rule where ejection leads to dismissal.

Just Like The Loch Ness Monster ...
 

I've heard myths about kids, dissatisfied with their coach, actually doing this.

Even though I have never heard of such a policy for coaches, but I am aware of some rules that applies to players. In my area many coaches cannot coach at a public school without working in that school as an employee or in the district somewhere. We have had many coaches that retired from their school job, then had to resign from their coaching position for the reasons I just stated. That might be the case here.

Peace

Not a myth...it happened here a few years back...not a the varsity level, however.

The State is Virginia and it is a policy only at this school system. I also, don't think they allow persons to coach who are not teachers at the school. I am not sure about administrators, I know some districts don't allow AD's Ast Principals etc to coach teams.
The story I heard was that MANY years ago the school had a nasty reputation for their coaches behavior and this was the only solution that worked.
Again, I have never had a problem (other then the hurdle) with any of the boys or girls coaches and don't think too many other officials have either. PLUS they give us a pizza drinks and all the left over popcorn to us after the game!:D

I've got a pretty wild imagination.

Update to OP: The offending coach/player may have his fine reduced to $100 by taking a sportsmanship "course" online. Interesting note is the rule is working. But while coaches/players are better behaved, officials are now less likely to give that second T even if warranted.

Is this a rec league? I can't imagine players getting fined for ejections. Coaches, sure, but players?

No. It is the State HS Athletic Assn. Changed directors a few years ago. This guy was a well-respected coach/administrator and a strict disciplinarian. He sees the bigger picture of how disrespecting the authority of even a (lowly) game official teaches the kids the wrong thing. :D

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