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NoFussRef Fri Jan 28, 2011 02:21am
Proper order: Shooting foul + 2 Ts(B)+ 1 T(A)
 
HS Boys Rec. (NFHS)

A1 fouled in act of shooting.
B1 (mouths off to my partner) 1st T.

Before we can even finish reporting these...

B1 (starts up again drops F-bomb at my partner) 2nd T and say goodnight!

While Im at the table explaining how to record all this, A2 (runs down and grabs the rim) gets T from me.

Heres what we did:

A1 shoots his 2 for the original shooting foul with the lane cleared.
A5 shoots 2 for the T foul(s) on B1.

B5 shoots 2 for the T foul on A2.

Went to the AP arrow for throw in.

Good? Bad? or Ugly?

Loudwhistle Fri Jan 28, 2011 02:38am
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 722578)
HS Boys Rec. (NFHS)

A1 fouled in act of shooting.
B1 (mouths off to my partner) 1st T.

Before we can even finish reporting these...

B1 (starts up again drops F-bomb at my partner) 2nd T and say goodnight!

While Im at the table explaining how to record all this, A2 (runs down and grabs the rim) gets T from me.

Heres what we did:

A1 shoots his 2 for the original shooting foul with the lane cleared.
A5 shoots 2 for the T foul(s) on B1. (I think you mean A5 shoots 2 each for the Tfouls on B1.)

B5 shoots 2 for the T foul on A2.

Went to the AP arrow for throw in.

Good? Bad? or Ugly?
B should have inbounded the ball across from the table at the division line.

just another ref Fri Jan 28, 2011 02:49am
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 722578)
HS Boys Rec. (NFHS)

A1 fouled in act of shooting.
B1 (mouths off to my partner) 1st T.

Before we can even finish reporting these...

B1 (starts up again drops F-bomb at my partner) 2nd T and say goodnight!

While Im at the table explaining how to record all this, A2 (runs down and grabs the rim) gets T from me.

Heres what we did:

A1 shoots his 2 for the original shooting foul with the lane cleared.
A5 shoots 2 for the T foul(s) on B1.

B5 shoots 2 for the T foul on A2.

Went to the AP arrow for throw in.

Good? Bad? or Ugly?
A5 shot how many?

APG Fri Jan 28, 2011 03:06am
Remember, under NFHS, we penalize everything in the order of occurrence.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 28, 2011 04:47am
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 722578)
HS Boys Rec. (NFHS)

A1 fouled in act of shooting.
B1 (mouths off to my partner) 1st T.

Before we can even finish reporting these...

B1 (starts up again drops F-bomb at my partner) 2nd T and say goodnight!

While Im at the table explaining how to record all this, A2 (runs down and grabs the rim) gets T from me.

Heres what we did:

A1 shoots his 2 for the original shooting foul with the lane cleared.
A5 shoots 2 for the T foul(s) on B1.

B5 shoots 2 for the T foul on A2.

Went to the AP arrow for throw in.

Good? Bad? or Ugly?
After A5 took 2 shots, another 2 shots were merited for B's second Technical Foul. After B5 shot 2 shots, B would get the division-line throw-in. Even though it may look weird, A will shoot 6 in a row, then B 2 shots with the throw-in.

eg-italy Fri Jan 28, 2011 05:29am
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 722591)
After A5 took 2 shots, another 2 shots were merited for B's second Technical Foul. After B5 shot 2 shots, B would get the division-line throw-in. Even though it may look weird, A will shoot 6 in a row, then B 2 shots with the throw-in.
With FIBA rules the penalties for the first T on B1 and the T on A2 would cancel; 2 FT for A1 (the shooting foul), then 2 FT for any team A player and division line throw-in for team A. Not as weird, IMO.

Ciao

stir22 Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:41am
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 722591)
After A5 took 2 shots, another 2 shots were merited for B's second Technical Foul. After B5 shot 2 shots, B would get the division-line throw-in. Even though it may look weird, A will shoot 6 in a row, then B 2 shots with the throw-in.
i get kind of confused on this kind of stuff. i've read the manual and case book, and its slowly sinking in, but i need to ask. each technical foul results in two shots, right? say a player gets a foul, mouths off, gets a T. mouths off again, gets another T. coach defends his player, gets a T. ***'t coach defends the head coach, gets a T.

are we shooting eight?

jdw3018 Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:46am
Quote:
Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 722695)
i get kind of confused on this kind of stuff. i've read the manual and case book, and its slowly sinking in, but i need to ask. each technical foul results in two shots, right? say a player gets a foul, mouths off, gets a T. mouths off again, gets another T. coach defends his player, gets a T. ***'t coach defends the head coach, gets a T.

are we shooting eight?
Yes.

The only times you wouldn't shoot two shots for each and every technical is if a T is part of a double technical, in which case neither team shoots (they essentially cancel each other out) or for multiple flagrant technicals for leaving the bench during a fight. In this case only two free throws are given regardless of the number of players who leave the bench.

Welpe Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:47am
Quote:
Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 722695)
are we shooting eight?

Yup. Each of the subsequent fouls is a false multiple foul. Each false multiple foul carries its own penalty and will be enforced in order of occurence.

Note this is not the case during a fight. Fights are handled with their own set of penalties.


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