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BillyMac Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:10am

Use Your Pink Whistles This Week ...
 
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We're donating 25% of a game fee to the American Cancer Society. My father died after a short battle with leukemia, so I'll be thinking about him when I work games this week.

grunewar Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:19am

Our Association has distributed the pink whistles and we've briefly talked about using them in Feb, but I haven't received the exact dates yet.

Good luck this week Billy, I know it'll be tough.

BillyMac Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:07pm

When Irish Eyes Are Smiling ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 720597)
Good luck this week Billy, I know it'll be tough.

Thanks. Actually it will not be tough at all, it will be great. I'm past the grieving stage, and have moved onto the stage where I enjoy thinking about my Dad's life, not his death. I've got a million stories. Don't get me started.

chseagle Sun Jan 23, 2011 06:48pm

The next home game here is going to be "Breast Cancer Awareness Night" during the Girls' V game. The team is supposed to be wearing some special uniforms.

I was joking with the C-Squad coach that a pink ball should be used as game ball.

justaref61 Sun Jan 23, 2011 06:56pm

Have you verified with your local association(s) that the pink whistles have been authorized by your state association? I remember hearing this past football season about some officials that decided to use pink whistles were removeed from post-season assignments (or some such punishment) for using the pink whistles without the state association approving it prior to their use. I am all for this worthy cause but would hate to see fellow officials punished for trying to do good!

chseagle Sun Jan 23, 2011 06:59pm

That happened up here in Washington.

However they were not penalized.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._ringer26.html

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Originally Posted by justaref61 (Post 720788)
Have you verified with your local association(s) that the pink whistles have been authorized by your state association? I remember hearing this past football season about some officials that decided to use pink whistles were removeed from post-season assignments (or some such punishment) for using the pink whistles without the state association approving it prior to their use. I am all for this worthy cause but would hate to see fellow officials punished for trying to do good!


BktBallRef Sun Jan 23, 2011 07:01pm

Oh brother...
 
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Originally Posted by justaref61 (Post 720788)
I remember hearing this past football season about some officials that decided to use pink whistles were removeed from post-season assignments (or some such punishment) for using the pink whistles without the state association approving it prior to their use

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720791)
That happened up here in Washington, Mike Colbreese (sp?) is on some people's "need to retire/remove" list cause of that.

No, that did not happen. They did use pink whistles without the state officials' association's approval but they were not penalized.

justaref61 Sun Jan 23, 2011 07:09pm

Thanks for the follow-up chseagle. The last I read on it was that they were going to be penalized... glad to hear they weren't!

chseagle Sun Jan 23, 2011 07:14pm

There are however several that think Todd Stordahl, WOA Commissioner, needs to be removed/resign due to this incident.

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Originally Posted by justaref61 (Post 720796)
Thanks for the follow-up chseagle. The last I read on it was that they were going to be penalized... glad to hear they weren't!


Adam Sun Jan 23, 2011 07:15pm

"Several?" I could probably find "several" that think I should retire.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 23, 2011 07:47pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720798)
There are however several that think Todd Stordahl, WOA Commissioner, needs to be removed/resign due to this incident.

Which means nothing.

BTW, nice edit after I first posted they were not penalized.

chseagle Sun Jan 23, 2011 08:01pm

That was just off the comments from the articles about the incident, basically layfolk that know little about the inner workings.

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 720813)
Which means nothing.

BTW, nice edit after I first posted they were not penalized.


grunewar Sun Jan 23, 2011 08:30pm

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Originally Posted by justaref61 (Post 720788)
Have you verified with your local association(s) that the pink whistles have been authorized by your state association?

I do what my Association tells me. When I get the email that this is pink whistle week, I'll use it. That is, if all my P's have theirs (which they didn't last yr.) :o

BillyMac Sun Jan 23, 2011 08:57pm

Cool ...
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720785)
I was joking with the C-Squad coach that a pink ball should be used as game ball.

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RobbyinTN Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:36pm

We are authorized to use pink whistles this week - as long as all officials have them for the game. I have games three nights this week - will see if I actually get to use it. Many of our officials refuse to use one for some reason.

26 Year Gap Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:36pm

We didn't get them in our assn. Mine was white with the pink ribbon in VT. Mom has her first chemo treatment on Tuesday. She has had two battles already. My mother-in-law had a 26 year battle in 5 episodes. Sadly, she lost her last bout in Nov. 2009. I hope that next year, we'll be doing it. FHSAA sets aside a week in every sports season for it.

chseagle Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:42pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 720850)

That ball would work as it'll keep the money here in Washington State since Baden is HQ'd out of Federal Way.

Rich Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 720895)
We are authorized to use pink whistles this week - as long as all officials have them for the game. I have games three nights this week - will see if I actually get to use it. Many of our officials refuse to use one for some reason.

Probably because they'd have to spend $6 to get one. Some officials act as though they don't get paid for working games.

BillyMac Mon Jan 24, 2011 07:15am

James 5:15-16 ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 720896)
Mom has her first chemo treatment on Tuesday. She has had two battles already.

And their prayer offered in faith will heal the sick, and the Lord will make them well. The earnest prayer of a righteous person has great power and wonderful results.

chseagle Thu Jan 27, 2011 08:47pm

Thanks to the local weekly newspaper, got a preview of the pink uniforms that are going to be worn tomorrow night.

How should an official call fouls/violations on this?

APG Thu Jan 27, 2011 09:00pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 722500)
Thanks to the local weekly newspaper, got a preview of the pink uniforms that are going to be worn tomorrow night.

How should an official call fouls/violations on this?

Ask your state how they want this handled. If they want the rule enforced, then one technical will be charged to the head coach for allowing his players to play with an illegal uniform. He will lose his coaching box privileges.

On the other hand, if the state allows an exception for this (which I hope they would), then play on.

chseagle Thu Jan 27, 2011 09:44pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 722505)
Ask your state how they want this handled. If they want the rule enforced, then one technical will be charged to the head coach for allowing his players to play with an illegal uniform. He will lose his coaching box privileges.

On the other hand, if the state allows an exception for this (which I hope they would), then play on.

The state is allowing the use of Pink uniforms, what I mean is color wise would you say white or pink when calling fouls/violations?

RookieDude Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:48pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 722515)
The state is allowing the use of Pink uniforms, what I mean is color wise would you say white or pink when calling fouls/violations?

...red.

APG Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 722515)
The state is allowing the use of Pink uniforms, what I mean is color wise would you say white or pink when calling fouls/violations?

Weird question...:confused:

I'd go with red.

Welpe Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 722515)
The state is allowing the use of Pink uniforms, what I mean is color wise would you say white or pink when calling fouls/violations?

Salmon.

APG Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 722536)
Salmon.

Magenta

RobbyinTN Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 722515)
The state is allowing the use of Pink uniforms, what I mean is color wise would you say white or pink when calling fouls/violations?

Depends on the uniform color of the opponents. If the opponents are Red (or a variation of red) I would go White, if opponent's uniforms are any other color and I would probably go Red.

chseagle Fri Jan 28, 2011 01:24am

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Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 722558)
Depends on the uniform color of the opponents. If the opponents are Red (or a variation of red) I would go White, if opponent's uniforms are any other color and I would probably go Red.

The opposing team will be in black.

All I know is that it'll be only the girls varsity in the Pink Uniforms right now.

ref2coach Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:13am

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Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 722558)
Depends on the uniform color of the opponents. If the opponents are Red (or a variation of red) I would go White, if opponent's uniforms are any other color and I would probably go Red.

Why not say pink? It is not hard to pronounce, it is not mulit-syllable. :confused:

I have never understood why we can not use the real color of the jersey. Schools are proud of their school colors. Are there really any of us referees so tongue tied that we can not say orange or yellow or pink? :rolleyes:

chartrusepengui Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:35am

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Originally Posted by ref2coach (Post 722674)
Why not say pink? It is not hard to pronounce, it is not mulit-syllable. :confused:

I have never understood why we can not use the real color of the jersey. Schools are proud of their school colors. Are there really any of us referees so tongue tied that we can not say orange or yellow or pink? :rolleyes:

We usually say the correct color- as long as it's not burnt umber or something.

Rich Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:56am

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Originally Posted by ref2coach (Post 722674)
Why not say pink? It is not hard to pronounce, it is not mulit-syllable. :confused:

I have never understood why we can not use the real color of the jersey. Schools are proud of their school colors. Are there really any of us referees so tongue tied that we can not say orange or yellow or pink? :rolleyes:

Try saying the color loud enough to be heard. Red, easy. Yellow, not so easy.

ref2coach Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:32am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 722709)
Try saying the color loud enough to be heard. Red, easy. Yellow, not so easy.

I call BS. With the smallest additional effort to enunciate you can be loud enough to be heard.

In a varsity contest that follows NFHS rules you have White and Something else. No matter how you pronounce the other color the players, table, coaches can tell it is either White or something else. ;)

Adam Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by ref2coach (Post 722674)
Why not say pink? It is not hard to pronounce, it is not mulit-syllable. :confused:

I have never understood why we can not use the real color of the jersey. Schools are proud of their school colors. Are there really any of us referees so tongue tied that we can not say orange or yellow or pink? :rolleyes:

If the players, fans, coaches, or admin are going to get upset with me for using a color that takes slightly less energy to say, let them. They're going to have a better reason to be mad at me before the game is over anyway, and they'll forget all about it.

If my partners started saying "purple," I'd probably join them, but this is an area where it's just as easy not to stand out.

M&M Guy Fri Jan 28, 2011 02:49pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 722709)
Try saying the color loud enough to be heard. Red, easy. Yellow, not so easy.

While I may not be as harsh as ref2coach, I too wonder why we need to use one-syllable colors? Can anyone point me to a mechanics manual, memo, or anything that spells this out? Or, is it possible this is one of those myths that has been carried forward from generation to generation, without any actual reasoning behind it? For those that want to play the "slippery-slope" card of not wanting to distiguish between burnt umber and magenta, how are those questions any different than any other non-real-world plays we come up with to discuss other rules? Can anyone actually give me a real-world example of a burnt umber uniform, or a team known as the Fighting Magenta Penguins? If not, then it probably doesn't apply. :rolleyes:

But there is, for example, a high school conference close by that include two teams - the Purple Raiders and the Blue Devils. I've never understood the reasoning behind calling the Purple Raiders "blue", when that's not the color of their uniforms, mascot, team name, etc., and they happen to be playing an opponent that does have a blue team name, mascot, etc. It has always felt a little like we were disrespecting that team in that instance.

BillyMac Fri Jan 28, 2011 06:29pm

The Rainbow Coalition ...
 
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 722851)
I too wonder why we need to use one-syllable colors?

Because that's the way God, and Dr. Naismith, intended it to be.

M&M Guy Fri Jan 28, 2011 06:39pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 722945)
Because that's the way God, and Dr. Naismith, intended it to be.

So, um...which Verse, or which one of Dr. Naismith's Original Rules, refers to one-syllable colors? ;)


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