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chseagle Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:31pm

NFHS vs. NCAA
 
How easy is it to transition from NFHS Rules to NCAA Rules?

justacoach Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720205)
How easy is it to transition from NFHS Rules to NCAA Rules?

Are your superior table official talents finally being recognized and getting you a promotion?
Are you contemplating a relo to SoCal?

Inquiring minds demand to know

chseagle Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:55pm

I am looking at possibly assisting for the local Community College Basketball Championships & they use NCAA rules.

Just waiting for a response.

Am also thinking of possibly seeing about assisting next year at the local Community College in table operations.

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 720218)
Are your superior table official talents finally being recognized and getting you a promotion?
Are you contemplating a relo to SoCal?

Inquiring minds demand to know


Adam Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:03pm

I can't imagine the rules are that different from the perspective of table operations.

chseagle Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:08pm

Number of periods, length of periods, TOs (length/number of)....

Last minute of 2nd half/OT, clock stops after made baskets, restarted when ball is touched inbounds.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 720227)
I can't imagine the rules are that different from the perspective of table operations.


CHSLadyEagle Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 720218)
Are you contemplating a relo to SoCal?

Inquiring minds demand to know

Only if I can be guaranteed a job at a certain Animation studio that my cousin works at. Nothing against SoCal, but I'd rather live in a different state or move back to one of 2 other states where I once lived while I was single. Better yet, I'd want to be working the boards at the HS I once lived near that was used for the High School Musical movies (It's not in NM like the movies).

Adam Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:13pm

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Originally Posted by CHSLadyEagle (Post 720235)
Only if I can be guaranteed a job at a certain Animation studio that my cousin works at. Nothing against SoCal, but I'd rather live in a different state or move back to one of 2 other states where I once lived while I was single. Better yet, I'd want to be working the boards at the HS I once lived near that was used for the High School Musical movies (It's not in NM like the movies).

Salt Lake City?

CHSLadyEagle Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:15pm

Yep! :D

refiator Sat Jan 22, 2011 02:00am

You just have to remember what rules and mechanics apply in the game you are working,
It is difficult to juggle between nfhs and ncaa. You really have to stay focused.








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BktBallRef Sat Jan 22, 2011 02:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720205)
How easy is it to transition from NFHS Rules to NCAA Rules?

Easy? It's impossible. It's NEVER been done before.

mbyron Sat Jan 22, 2011 07:07am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 720278)
Easy? It's impossible. It's NEVER been done before.

Careful, irony doesn't fly in the aerie. :)

constable Sat Jan 22, 2011 07:18am

I don't find it difficult to transition between different rule sets as an official so I can't imagine it's difficult as a timer.

Butterfly182310 Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:04am

Working a fair number of games a both levels keeps you sharp at both levels. Working primarily at one level and only occasionally at the other is more difficult to keep the nuances separated.

JRutledge Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 720312)
I don't find it difficult to transition between different rule sets as an official so I can't imagine it's difficult as a timer.

It is not difficult at all. Their are very little difference at the Men's side level and not much to change or have to worry about.

Peace

eyezen Sat Jan 22, 2011 01:14pm

In regards to the timer position the only thing of any consequence is stopping the clock under a minute in the second half after a made basket.

Adam Sat Jan 22, 2011 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720232)
Number of periods, length of periods, TOs (length/number of)....

Last minute of 2nd half/OT, clock stops after made baskets, restarted when ball is touched inbounds.

Right, that's one difference in effect during play. The rest is like doing table for your local rec leagues; have a sheet that tells you what the differences are.

eyezen Sat Jan 22, 2011 02:11pm

Also be aware that timeouts can be shortened by the calling team.

chseagle Sat Jan 22, 2011 04:23pm

TOs can be shortened in HS if both teams are ready to play.

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 720366)
Also be aware that timeouts can be shortened by the calling team.


eyezen Sat Jan 22, 2011 04:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720397)
TOs can be shortened in HS if both teams are ready to play.

Yes, yes they can. But remember you asked for differences and this is one of them. You have to be aware of which team called the TO and if they come out sound the warning horn.

chseagle Sat Jan 22, 2011 05:08pm

So, IOW, if (For example) BYU & Utah were playing one another & BYU called a full TO, yet they broke the huddle 30 secs. in, the horn sounds at 30 secs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 720400)
Yes, yes they can. But remember you asked for differences and this is one of them. You have to be aware of which team called the TO and if they come out sound the warning horn.


eyezen Sat Jan 22, 2011 05:45pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720402)
So, IOW, if (For example) BYU & Utah were playing one another & BYU called a full TO, yet they broke the huddle 30 secs. in, the horn sounds at 30 secs.

Yes, with the second horn 15 secs later (thus at 45).

bob jenkins Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:50am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 720402)
So, IOW, if (For example) BYU & Utah were playing one another & BYU called a full TO, yet they broke the huddle 30 secs. in, the horn sounds at 30 secs.

The have to request that the TO be shortened.


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