not hitting the rim

AKOFL

Does anyone call the violation on the first of two free-Throws if the shooter doesn't hit the rim? had a discussion with a few other officials about this the other day. Second Q. do you put your hand up on the first shot of two as center( 3 crew ) trail ( 2 crew ) or just the last one. thanks.

APG

AKOFL wrote
Does anyone call the violation on the first of two free-Throws if the shooter doesn't hit the rim? had a discussion with a few other officials about this the other day. Second Q. do you put your hand up on the first shot of two as center( 3 crew ) trail ( 2 crew ) or just the last one. thanks.

First of two and the shooter misses the rim? I wouldn't say anything unless for some other reason, the defense violated just so coaches know why the shooter isn't getting a replacement free throw.

Also, there's no point in raising your hand on the first of two free throws. The point of raising our hand is to chop time in on a potential miss. If there's no chance the ball will remain live on a miss, then there's no reason to raise your hand.

Freddy

AKOFL wrote
Does anyone call the violation on the first of two free-Throws if the shooter doesn't hit the rim? had a discussion with a few other officials about this the other day. Second Q. do you put your hand up on the first shot of two as center( 3 crew ) trail ( 2 crew ) or just the last one. thanks.

Just so when you do call a violation for the free throw missing the rim you're not the L (unless your partner at T or C brainfarts and misses the obvious miss, of course) and you don't do that upward finger "swirling the toilet bowl" signal. No sense being a plumber about it. Oops, just dissed myself.
Just point to the rim with the other hand upraised with an open hand and then point to where the throwin will be administered.
"Swirling the toilet bowl" isn't a mechanic. It is, however, a signal I use right after solving a stubborn toilet clog. It's in our company's mechanics manual.

tref

Freddy wrote
"Swirling the toilet bowl" isn't a mechanic.

How do you reset the shot clock?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If the only thing that happened during the first of two or the first two of three free throws is that the attempt did not make contact with the basket ring, just let it go. Everybody knows the shot was missed and the player is no doubt is embarassed by his poor attempt.

MTD, Sr.

Freddy

tref wrote
How do you reset the shot clock?

We don't have a shot clock here across the lake from Rut. Is there a special mechanic for resetting the shot clock for those states who do have one? Maybe that's where it came from.

APG

tref wrote
How do you reset the shot clock?

I believe the signal he's referring to is the basket interference signal for the NBA rather than the swirl with the index finger point towards the ceiling.

BillyMac

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
If the only thing that happened during the first of two or the first two of three free throws is that the attempt did not make contact with the basket ring, just let it go. Everybody knows the shot was missed and the player is no doubt is embarassed by his poor attempt. MTD, Sr.

Agree.

BillyMac

Freddy wrote
"Swirling the toilet bowl" signal.

The_Rookie

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
If the only thing that happened during the first of two or the first two of three free throws is that the attempt did not make contact with the basket ring, just let it go. Everybody knows the shot was missed and the player is no doubt is embarassed by his poor attempt.

MTD, Sr.

What is the call if its the 2nd shot and misses rim and backboard?

BktBallRef

The_Rookie wrote
What is the call if its the 2nd shot and misses rim and backboard?

That would be a violation if it misses the rim. It makes no difference whether it hits the backboard or not. Wouldn't you agree?

tref wrote
How do you reset the shot clock?

Push upward with your hand.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The_Rookie wrote
What is the call if its the 2nd shot and misses rim and backboard?

Is it the (a) second shot of a one-and-one, (b) second shot of two, or (c) second shot of three?

MTD, Sr.

The_Rookie

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
Is it the (a) seond shot of a one-and-one, (b) second shot of two, or (c) second shot of three?

MTD, Sr.

Sceanrio A and B...

Jurassic Referee

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
Is it the (a) second shot of a one-and-one, (b) second shot of two, or (c) second shot of three?

What difference would it make? 😕

They're all covered under the same rule, aren't they?

The_Rookie

Jurassic Referee wrote
What difference would it make? 😕

They're all covered under the same rule, aren't they?

What section in case book or rule book is this discussed? (Missing the rim)

Jurassic Referee

The_Rookie wrote
What section in case book or rule book is this discussed? (Missing the rim)

NFHS rule 9-1-3(a) and 9-1PENALTIES: (Section 1) 1.

Adam

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
Is it the (a) seond shot of a one-and-one, (b) second shot of two, or (c) second shot of three?

MTD, Sr.

Or (d) the second shot of a one-shot foul.

Freddy

The_Rookie wrote
What section in case book or rule book is this discussed? (Missing the rim)

9-1-3a

(Shucks, JR responds at 5:52, but just before I responded at 5:52. Does this mean our discussion board needs a clock to display tenths of a second? Oh, sorry, that was a different thread from a while ago.)

BBrules

The_Rookie wrote
What section in case book or rule book is this discussed? (Missing the rim)

Also see Rule 9 Comment in the Case Book.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Snaqwells wrote
Or (d) the second shot of a one-shot foul.

Snaqs:

Point well taken. How could I have forgotten that one.

MTD, Sr.