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freddie_g2001 Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:21am

Coach Techniques......Short Answers
 
I wanted to enquire to all fellow Refs on short answers to dealing with coaches. I have been told, Keep it short, Short Answers, Never Respond to Statements. Now, Can some of you share specific techniques you use in situations when a coach is border-line irrational.......Thanks for your input in advance.

fullor30 Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:29am

Best advice to describe demeanor I read here I believe was be approachable, yet 'distant'.

tref Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:32am

Ask the assistant coach if he/she is prepared to take over the head coaching duties for the night. :D

RookieDude Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:05am

Short and sweet is nice:

"I got it Coach"...when they are yelling for a call as you are making the call.

"He was displaced Coach"...when they are arguing that it was not a certain foul.

"I might have kicked it Coach"...when you missed an obvious call, or made an obvious bad call.

"Enough Coach"...when you don't want to hear anymore. (Be prepared to back it up...don't keep saying "enough" without consequences)

"Not there" (optional:while shaking head)...when coach is screaming for call such as over and back.

"Spot"...for spot throw-in.

"Watta ya want Coach"...(After whistle and while underhand palm up pointing to coach)...when coach has been granted a time out.

There are many more...but, you get the idea. KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid.;)

Rich Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:29am

"I'll watch for it" is something that works pretty well.

I've used "I'm listening to you" or "I hear you" when a coach is amping up because he thinks I'm ignoring him.

Most often, though, we get into trouble when we misinterpret a comment as a question. Silence is a great tool unless the coach interprets silence as ignoring him, then see the previous paragraph.

Indianaref Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:37am

General Techniques:
Statements by coaches don’t normally need a response. Answer questions, not statements.
Let the coach ask their question first, before speaking. Be a responder, not an initiator.
Most coaches will have questions when they believe the officials have missed an obvious call.
Having the officials in closer proximity often calms down the coach.
Be in control and speak in calm, easy tones. Be aware of your body language; maintain positive and confident
body language.
Make eye contact with the coach when the situation allows.
Do not try to answer a question from an out of control coach; deal with the behavior first.
If you’ve missed a call or made a mistake; admit it. This technique can only be used sparingly, perhaps
once a game.
Don’t bluff your way through a call.
Do not ignore a coach.

Specific Communication Examples:

Coach sees the play very differently than the official:
“Coach, if that’s the way it happened/what you saw, then I must have missed it. I’ll take a closer look next
time.”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, however, on that play I didn’t see it that way. I’ll keep an eye for it
on both ends.”
“Coach, I had a good look at that play and here’s what I saw (short explanation).”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, but my angle was different than yours.”
“Coach, I had a great look at that play, but I understand your question and I’ll have the crew keep an eye on it.”
“Coach, I had that play all the way and made the call.”

Coach believes you’re missing persistent illegal acts by the other team:
“OK coach, we’ll watch for that.”
“Coach, we are watching for that on both ends of the court.”

Coach is questioning a partner’s call:
“Coach, that’s a good call, as a crew we have to make that call.”
“We’re calling it on both ends.”
“Coach, he/she was right there and had a great angle.”
“Coach, we’re not going there, I can’t let you criticize my partner.”
“Coach, he/she had a great look, but if you have a specific question, you’ll have to ask him/her, he/she’ll be
over here in just a minute.”

Coach is very animated and gesturing:
“Coach, I’m going to talk with you and answer your questions, but you must put your arms down/stop the
gesturing.”
“Coach, please put your arms down. Now, what’s your question?”

Coach is raising their voice asking the question:
“Coach, I can hear you. I’m standing right here, you don’t need to raise your voice.”
"Coach, I need you to stop raising your voice and just ask your question calmly.”

Coach is commenting on something every time down the floor:
“Coach, I need you to pick your spots, we can’t have a comment on every single call that is being made.”
"Coach, I can't have you officiating this game."
"Coach, I understand you're not going to agree with all of our calls, but I can't have you question every
single one."
"Coach, if you have a question, I'll answer if I have a chance, but we aren't going to have these constant
comments."

Coach has a good point and might be right.
“You’ve got a good point and might be right about that play.”
“You might be right, that’s one we’ll talk about at halftime/intermission/the next time out.”
“You might be right; I may not have had the best angle on that play.”

Coach is venting, make editorial comments:
“I hear what you’re saying”
“I hear what you’re saying, but we’re moving on.”

Coach just won’t let it go:
“I’ve heard enough and that’s your warning.”

Original Source: Topeka (Kansas) Officials Association

Rich Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 719506)
“Coach, if that’s the way it happened/what you saw, then I must have missed it. I’ll take a closer look next
time.”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, however, on that play I didn’t see it that way. I’ll keep an eye for it
on both ends.”
“Coach, I had a good look at that play and here’s what I saw (short explanation).”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, but my angle was different than yours.”
“Coach, I had a great look at that play, but I understand your question and I’ll have the crew keep an eye on it.”
“Coach, I had that play all the way and made the call.”

In the rare case I don't know the coach's first name, I only need to look at the program for a minute. I expect them to use my first name, I'm going to use theirs. We're both adults out there (I think).

Indianaref Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by richmsn (Post 719508)
in the rare case i don't know the coach's first name, i only need to look at the program for a minute. I expect them to use my first name, i'm going to use theirs. We're both adults out there (i think).

+1

bob jenkins Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddie_g2001 (Post 719479)
I wanted to enquire to all fellow Refs on short answers to dealing with coaches. I have been told, Keep it short, Short Answers, Never Respond to Statements. Now, Can some of you share specific techniques you use in situations when a coach is border-line irrational.......Thanks for your input in advance.

"(coach name), I'll be glad to answer a question you have about a specific play, but I can't have you (undesirable behavior)"

fullor30 Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:54am

Another good one I have yet to use was told to us by Tom O'Neill, final four guy at his camp.

Coach has your ear and usually a call was made by another official. "Coach, what did you see?" Shows your listening, and he has a brief sounding board.

Allows them to a quick vent.

BLydic Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 719508)
In the rare case I don't know the coach's first name, I only need to look at the program for a minute. I expect them to use my first name, I'm going to use theirs. We're both adults out there (I think).

I've always wondered if this is the right approach. What benefits are gained by using the coach's first name? I might add their last name, but I always refer to a coach as only "coach".

BTW, this topic is not new, but the responses here are very helpful. Thanks to those contributing.

rockyroad Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:27pm

Another little thing that can help quite a bit is to be aware of where you and the Coach are at on the floor. Especially in the case of a time-out and the Coach wants your ear for a few seconds...I have found that the closer I keep the Coach to his players, the more reasonable they become. The farther away from the player's hearing, the more outrageous and ridiculous the comments are.

Not always the way it works out, but keeping them close to their huddle/bench tends to keep them a little calmer.

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:37pm

I'd respond to this thread but I think it would use up all of Brad's server space. :eek:

Adam Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 719522)
I've always wondered if this is the right approach. What benefits are gained by using the coach's first name? I might add their last name, but I always refer to a coach as only "coach".

BTW, this topic is not new, but the responses here are very helpful. Thanks to those contributing.

This is a Rome thing, it seems. Some areas, first name is encouraged. Others, not so much.

Andy Thu Jan 20, 2011 04:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 719504)
"
I've used...."I hear you" ....

If used in a particular tone of voice, this phrase can carry two messages at once:

1. I hear what you are saying
2. I don't want to hear anymore

jdw3018 Thu Jan 20, 2011 04:31pm

In addition to a lot of good suggestions in this thread, I've also used, "Coach, I've heard you. It's probably best that we're done with this topic."

Seems to get a better response for me than "That's enough."

BillyMac Thu Jan 20, 2011 08:54pm

In My Dreams ...
 
"Coach. Shut up and leave us alone". Wait a minute? Did I say that out loud?

derwil Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:55pm

Shut your friggin pie hole you one eyed maniac!

Coaches should be seen and not heard.

Your momma used to drop you a lot didn't she?

I am NOT the worst referee in the world..... (point to your partner) HE IS!

Two words...breath mint.....

Coach your team sucks but at least your cheerleaders are hot!

freddie_g2001 Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:54am

Fullor30, Missouri valley Camp at Tulsa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 719517)
Another good one I have yet to use was told to us by Tom O'Neill, final four guy at his camp.

Coach has your ear and usually a call was made by another official. "Coach, what did you see?" Shows your listening, and he has a brief sounding board.

Allows them to a quick vent.

Fullor30, I was at Camp in Tulsa when Tom O Neil talked too. Great camp and All of the Officials were Quality. Great experience......

freddie_g2001 Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:56am

derwil, Comic relief
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by derwil (Post 719754)
Shut your friggin pie hole you one eyed maniac!

Coaches should be seen and not heard.

Your momma used to drop you a lot didn't she?

I am NOT the worst referee in the world..... (point to your partner) HE IS!

Two words...breath mint.....

Coach your team sucks but at least your cheerleaders are hot!

Thats too funny. I don't think I'll use those lines but they are great for a comic moment at the office. lol

DesMoines Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by derwil (Post 719754)

Coach your team sucks but at least your MOMS are hot!

Fixed for Padgett. :D

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:00pm

I've used "I'll try to get some different angles." That is a variant of "I'll watch for it."

Had a game last week where the arrow had not switched and the start of the 4th qtr had the same team taking the ball out. He asked about it & I checked with the table and there had not been any held balls in the 3rd qtr. [And don't chime in with the whistle in the pocket trick, please]. Turned out he was right. As the C, with my back to him, I simply said, "Thanks, coach." I think he felt good that he was listened to when he voiced his concern in a calm manner. Which was out of character for him.

mbyron Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 719957)
I think he felt good that he was listened to when he voiced his concern in a calm manner. Which was out of character for him.

That's called positive reinforcement. ;)

Adam Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 720010)
That's called positive reinforcement. ;)

Yep, it works great with children, monkeys, puppies, and sometimes even parents.

Cats, on the other hand....

Eastshire Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 720015)
Yep, it works great with children, monkeys, puppies, and sometimes even parents.

Cats, on the other hand....

Cats have no issue using positive reinforcement on us.

Adam Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 720018)
Cats have no issue using positive reinforcement on us.

And it works on some of us. The rest prefer BBQ sauce.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 21, 2011 02:40pm

"Coach, don't make me raise my hackles." :eek:

Refsmitty Fri Jan 21, 2011 03:50pm

Don't go often - don't stay long!
 
:)

just another ref Fri Jan 21, 2011 04:04pm

This doesn't work for everything, but, coaches often voice their concerns with
"That should have been......." If a coach says this to me, in a reasonable voice, when I happen to be stopped in front of him, I often say, "You could be right."


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