Hoophall Classic

Rich

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Big shock that they hire officials that don't even work HS games anymore (see the comments).

Jurassic Referee

Hmmmmm.....I thought that local IAABO Boards were responsible for assigning all games played in their jurisdiction. If so, I'm kinda wondering too why they'd assign the games that way.

You do realize who the rules interpreter of that particular board is, don't you? A long time esteemed member here. Methinks I'll ask him about this...if you haven't already.

Rich

Jurassic Referee wrote
Hmmmmm.....I thought that local IAABO Boards were responsible for assigning all games played in their jurisdiction. If so, I'm kinda wondering too why they'd assign the games that way.

You do realize who the rules interpreter of that particular board is, don't you? A long time esteemed member here. Methinks I'll ask him about this...if you haven't already.

I haven't. I'm sure quite a few of the officials still work HS games. But if the comment of "haven't worked a HS game in 5 years" is true, it's disappointing that guy would even be asked to do this one.

Jurassic Referee

Just sent the esteemed member an e-mail with some questions.

GoodwillRef

The Old Boys System is alive and well.

JRutledge

GoodwillRef wrote
The Old Boys System is alive and well.

Why do you come to that conclusion? Not everyone has the ability to work those games. Someone has to work those games and I certainly am not going to pick the average official. Just saying.

Peace

Jurassic Referee

GoodwillRef wrote
The Old Boys System is alive and well.

Agree with Jeff. we don't know all of the info as to how/why the games were assigned that way. Heck, we really don't know anything yet for sure.

JRutledge

It also looks like these are Prep Schools so these teams really are not high schools and sometimes do not play all HS rules. College officials and mentality might be the best to work these games in the first place.

Peace

Rich

JRutledge wrote
Why do you come to that conclusion? Not everyone has the ability to work those games. Someone has to work those games and I certainly am not going to pick the average official. Just saying.

Peace

Who said anything about "the average official?"

JRutledge

RichMSN wrote
Who said anything about "the average official?"

When you (not you personally) suggest that someone is getting a game and politics are involved, it must be noted that I seriously doubt the "average" official is being considered to work this tournament. And whether it is a good gauge or not, someone working college is likely has beat out others to work that level on some level and have seen a certain level of basketball that the average official has not seen. And whether we like IAABO or not, they are a multi-level organization that involves HS and college officials that participate in that organization. If I have the opportunity to pick guys that work Prep Schools, I will probably want the guy that are not your average, run of the mill official. And most college officials are not considered by assignors as "average." I am sure the assignor of this organization wants to put their best foot forward as much as possible.

Peace

Rich

JRutledge wrote
I was not responding to your post Rich. 😉

Peace

Yeah? So?

😀

Adam

GWR didn't say anything about the average official, either.

Scrapper1

Jurassic Referee wrote
I thought that local IAABO Boards were responsible for assigning all games played in their jurisdiction.

This is a common misconception. IAABO is a training organization, period. IAABO is not a rule-making organization or an assigning authority. (In some areas -- in CT, for example -- the local school district allows the IAABO board to pick its own assignor.) In my neck of the woods, each scholastic conference or AAU tournament or youth league chooses its own assignors. The assignor is free to use whomever he/she wants, although our IAABO board obviously lobbies for assignors to use officials from our board.

Scrapper1

JRutledge wrote
It also looks like these are Prep Schools so these teams really are not high schools and sometimes do not play all HS rules.

In the past, some of the prep games have used college rules. I don't know if that was true this year.

JRutledge

Scrapper1 wrote
In the past, some of the prep games have used college rules. I don't know if that was true this year.

It might not be, but someone needs to be familiar with the style of play as well. I think that is the most important thing. I would not put someone on these games that have never seen above the rim games either.

Peace

JRutledge

Snaqwells wrote
GWR didn't say anything about the average official, either.

He did not have to. 😉

Peace

Jurassic Referee

Scrapper1 wrote
This is a common misconception. IAABO is a training organization, period. IAABO is not a rule-making organization or an assigning authority. (In some areas -- in CT, for example -- the local school district allows the IAABO board to pick its own assignor.) In my neck of the woods, each scholastic conference or AAU tournament or youth league chooses its own assignors. The assignor is free to use whomever he/she wants, although our IAABO board obviously lobbies for assignors to use officials from our board.

I stand corrected. It's basically a state decision re: method of assigning.

IAABO is still recognized as the official rules interpreting body by some states though, correct?

Thanks.