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stir22 Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:20pm

New Ref has a question
 
hi all, just found/joined the forum yesterday...relatively new ref. 3rd year...i try to do as many games as possible...will take anything, anytime. did my first varsity last friday night, it went well. however, i have a question which i am afraid to ask anybody in my pool, for fear of sounding stupid.

say a team is white, b team is blue...white has ball...shoots...if the rebound is contested, and the ball batted around a couple of times, i will not always remember immediately who was on offense. i get so into the game that i sometimes have to think to myself, "okay, white is at this end this half..."

is this normal? did any of you longtime veterans experience this? i work hard, try to do well, and have gotten positive feeback from my pool. but, well into my third year i feel that i should have a better handle on this.

thanks!!!

APG Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:27pm

Haha...this isn't the first time this has been asked. It happens to the best of us. Like you said, sometimes you get so into the game, you forget which direction teams are going. The more games I did, the less trouble I had with this.

Raymond Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 718460)
hi all, just found/joined the forum yesterday...relatively new ref. 3rd year...i try to do as many games as possible...will take anything, anytime. did my first varsity last friday night, it went well. however, i have a question which i am afraid to ask anybody in my pool, for fear of sounding stupid.

say a team is white, b team is blue...white has ball...shoots...if the rebound is contested, and the ball batted around a couple of times, i will not always remember immediately who was on offense. i get so into the game that i sometimes have to think to myself, "okay, white is at this end this half..."

is this normal? did any of you longtime veterans experience this? i work hard, try to do well, and have gotten positive feeback from my pool. but, well into my third year i feel that i should have a better handle on this.

thanks!!!

Normal nervousness. Often at the beginning of games I forget which way I'm supposed to point on OOB calls and will instead just yell out the color.

Just look at the bench closest to you and that will tell which way you should be going.

SamIAm Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 718460)
hi all, just found/joined the forum yesterday...relatively new ref. 3rd year...i try to do as many games as possible...will take anything, anytime. did my first varsity last friday night, it went well. however, i have a question which i am afraid to ask anybody in my pool, for fear of sounding stupid.

say a team is white, b team is blue...white has ball...shoots...if the rebound is contested, and the ball batted around a couple of times, i will not always remember immediately who was on offense. i get so into the game that i sometimes have to think to myself, "okay, white is at this end this half..."

is this normal? did any of you longtime veterans experience this? i work hard, try to do well, and have gotten positive feeback from my pool. but, well into my third year i feel that i should have a better handle on this.

thanks!!!

A quick glance at the bench should solve this issue until you get some experience. Teams should go to the basket opposite there bench in the first half, and with their bench in the 2nd half. Understand, this advice will only work if you can remember in which half you are, which is nbot so simple if it is your 3rd or 4th youth game of the day.

Also slow down. BTW - What level are you officiating.

Adam Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:34pm

The best advice is slow down. It works for a lot of things.

stir22 Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIAm (Post 718465)
A quick glance at the bench should solve this issue until you get some experience. Teams should go to the basket opposite there bench in the first half, and with their bench in the 2nd half. Understand, this advice will only work if you can remember in which half you are, which is nbot so simple if it is your 3rd or 4th youth game of the day.

Also slow down. BTW - What level are you officiating.


many thanks to you all for answering...i do the lower levels, jv/jr. high...i try to do a ton of junior high and heisey/cyo stuff, just for the experience and because it's so fulfilling. it has gotten better, but i just think i should be farther along by now.

again, many thanks.

Loudwhistle Tue Jan 18, 2011 05:43pm

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Originally Posted by badnewsref (Post 718464)
normal nervousness. Often at the beginning of games i forget which way i'm supposed to point on oob calls and will instead just yell out the color.

Just look at the bench closest to you and that will tell which way you should be going.

+1

tjones1 Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:17pm

Just keep working hard and you'll be alright.

BillyMac Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:27pm

Upside Down, Inside Out, Round And Round ...
 
This happens to many of us. Yes, we are supposed to state the color, and point the direction, but sometimes we can get "turned around" and only know one for sure. You don't want to be doing this several times a game, but every once in a while it's alright to just state the color. Or, again, every once in a while, it's alright to just point the direction.

Also, and this is definitely not proper by the mechanics manual, and I'm sure that I will get many Forum members critiquing me; when you really get "turned around" but know for sure that it's off the offense, you can, only according the the BillyMac Mechanics Manual, state, "Going down", and point upcourt. Or, again, this is only according to the BillyMac Mechanics Manual, if you know for sure that it's off the defense, state, "Stay here", and point behind you.

Eastshire Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:55pm

Pretty much every time down the court as lead I tell myself which color is offense. That usually keeps things straight for me.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 18, 2011 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 718470)
i try to do a ton of junior high and heisey/cyo stuff

For those of you who don't know what "heisey stuff" is:

The Heisey Youth Center

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 18, 2011 08:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 718460)
hi all, just found/joined the forum yesterday...relatively new ref. 3rd year...i try to do as many games as possible...will take anything, anytime. did my first varsity last friday night, it went well. however, i have a question which i am afraid to ask anybody in my pool, for fear of sounding stupid.

say a team is white, b team is blue...white has ball...shoots...if the rebound is contested, and the ball batted around a couple of times, i will not always remember immediately who was on offense. i get so into the game that i sometimes have to think to myself, "okay, white is at this end this half..."

is this normal? did any of you longtime veterans experience this? i work hard, try to do well, and have gotten positive feeback from my pool. but, well into my third year i feel that i should have a better handle on this.

thanks!!!

Hey - I get so into the game sometimes that moons ago, when a dribbler stepped out of bounds, I marked forward progress and stopped the clock.

You're doing fine, I'm sure.

APG Tue Jan 18, 2011 08:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jugglingreferee (Post 718558)
hey - i get so into the game sometimes that moons ago, when a dribbler stepped out of bounds, i marked forward progress and stopped the clock.

You're doing fine, i'm sure.

lol! :d

JohnDorian37 Tue Jan 18, 2011 08:25pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 718528)
Pretty much every time down the court as lead I tell myself which color is offense. That usually keeps things straight for me.

I do this too.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 19, 2011 09:16am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 718496)
Also, and this is definitely not proper by the mechanics manual, and I'm sure that I will get many Forum members critiquing me; when you really get "turned around" but know for sure that it's off the offense, you can, only according the the BillyMac Mechanics Manual, state, "Going down", and point upcourt.

If you must use this technique, I would strongly recommend that you say something like "That way" as opposed to "going down."

jeschmit Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 718528)
Pretty much every time down the court as lead I tell myself which color is offense. That usually keeps things straight for me.

I actually do just the opposite. Since we're told to referee the defense, I always tell myself which team is defending at the time. Especially when I am becoming the new lead. I say something like this in my head, "White's on defense. Where's my post players?" That gets me ready for the play almost every trip down the court.

BBrules Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:40pm

Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 718978)
I actually do just the opposite. Since we're told to referee the defense, I always tell myself which team is defending at the time. Especially when I am becoming the new lead. I say something like this in my head, "White's on defense. Where's my post players?" That gets me ready for the play almost every trip down the court.

I keep telling myself which is on offense. That way I'm prepared for that all-important 3 second call. I may miss the charges, blocks, double fouls, and illegal screens, but the fans will be happy I don't miss the 3 second calls.:D


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