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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:03pm
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Exclamation Travel? How about the carry?!?!
Offensive player carried the ball and covered a lot of ground before he gathered it to score the winning bucket. No wonder the defender put two hands on him, he dusted him with palming the ball!

Why even have points of emphasis if they are not going to be followed!
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:06pm
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Offensive player carried the ball and covered a lot of ground before he gathered it to score the winning bucket. No wonder the defender put two hands on him, he dusted him with palming the ball!

Why even have points of emphasis if they are not going to be followed!
How much ground should not be a consideration when determining travel or not. These players are bigger and longer than ever before and thus able to cover a lot of ground. Rather, just pick up the pivot foot and go from there.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:11pm
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Offensive player carried the ball and covered a lot of ground before he gathered it to score the winning bucket. No wonder the defender put two hands on him, he dusted him with palming the ball!

Why even have points of emphasis if they are not going to be followed!
What video are you watching? The travel happened after the push. By rule, you've got a foul, and he looks to me to be trying to gather the ball (judgment call) for a shot. The travel after the foul makes the ball dead, so two shots for the shooter.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:19pm
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Offensive player carried the ball and covered a lot of ground before he gathered it to score the winning bucket. No wonder the defender put two hands on him, he dusted him with palming the ball!

Why even have points of emphasis if they are not going to be followed!
When did the ball come to rest with the palm facing upward???
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:36pm
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Yes, it's probably a foul.

Yes, it's traveling.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:06pm
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Yes, it's probably a foul.

Yes, it's traveling.
No, it's probably not a foul.

No, it's not traveling.

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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:40pm
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The palm is in the mid court when he goes from the bottom of the center court logo to the top of the key while carrying the ball. It is more than a hesitation dribble and other replays last night showed it more vividly. This is before he engages with the defender, who stands up in reaction to the ball coming to rest.

The 15 second video that is within this thread picks up the offensive player after his dribble at the top of the key.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:43pm
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Looks like 4 steps to me; two small ones as he gathers, two (not simultaneous) and the shot. Also I'll agree with others there could be a push in there as he splits the defenders. Neither of these are perceptible without benefit of slow motion instant replay, so know what? Great call!
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:49pm
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Looks like 4 steps to me; two small ones as he gathers, two (not simultaneous) and the shot. Also I'll agree with others there could be a push in there as he splits the defenders. Neither of these are perceptible without benefit of slow motion instant replay, so know what? Great call!
I don't see how you have four steps. Not that it matters in how we officiate this play.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:55pm
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OK three steps
Still, in real time, looks close enough to a jump stop to be legal.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:02pm
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Still, in real time, looks close enough to a jump stop to be legal.
I don't know, the first time I saw the video I could tell it was a travel, in real time. Close enough to go either way? Probably, but it's still an obvious travel to me.
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Ahh, the first time
you saw the video, not the first time the ref, or a ref, saw the PLAY.
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