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chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 05:40pm
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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 716968)
Yes, definite knowledge applies in this situation-correct the home book and move on.At our school we use the Mark V books which gives you no established space under the team foul to record the jersey # of a player just called for a foul.What I have started to do this year is cross out the team foul and then record the jersey # next to the team foul.That way if things get a bit hairy and a coach says-"No # ___ does not have ___ fouls.She has ___." I can say she picked up team fouls (appropriate # of team fouls).If something like this were to happen in a game I was working I can go back and check my team fouls as a second reference.
You're using different Mark V books than we have here. The Mark V books we use here have both Player & Team Foul spaces.

SCalScoreKeeper Sun Jan 16, 2011 06:32pm
The mark v books we use give all the standard stuff except where it gives team foul # and a space underneath to record the jersey in some books we just have the team foul number to cross off.What I meant to say was that after crossing off the team foul I write the jersey # of the player called for that foul next to the corresponding team foul.

chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 06:35pm
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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 717003)
The mark v books we use give all the standard stuff except where it gives team foul # and a space underneath to record the jersey in some books we just have the team foul number to cross off.What I meant to say was that after crossing off the team foul I write the jersey # of the player called for that foul next to the corresponding team foul.
Here's an image of the Mark V scorebook we use around here.

http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=500&uid=1980789596

chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 06:49pm
How's this for a scorebook?

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/Stats_.../scorebook.pdf

Speaking of one rule would like to see changed, let's make all HS games become 16 minute halves (instead of 8-minute quarters) so that players can transition into college ball easier. Also, as I see it, a better scorebook.

Adam Sun Jan 16, 2011 06:52pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717014)
Speaking of one rule would like to see changed, let's make all HS games become 16 minute halves (instead of 8-minute quarters) so that players can transition into college ball easier. Also, as I see it, a better scorebook.
That's a stupid reason. IMO of course.

chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:01pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 717015)
That's a stupid reason. IMO of course.
I was trying to think of other reasons but my mind went blank

SCalScoreKeeper Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:40pm
Chseagle,
We use the same book.When I cross out the team foul I record the player's number right next to it as a secondary check.

Adam Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:45pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717022)
I was trying to think of other reasons but my mind went blank
I honestly can't think of any good reasons to make the change. I can't think of any reasons not to, either.

chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:52pm
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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 717046)
Chseagle,
We use the same book.When I cross out the team foul I record the player's number right next to it as a secondary check.
O ok an additional statistic to see who fouls when, depending on the team foul count.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:53pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717022)
I was trying to think of other reasons but my mind went blank
If you can't think of a reason, then why would you suggest the change?

I don't think your mind WENT blank, I think it's nearly always that way.

chseagle Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:55pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 717055)
If you can't think of a reason, then why would you suggest the change?

I don't think your mind WENT blank, I think it's nearly always that way.
If my mind was ALWAYS blank, wouldn't I be a vegetable?

just another ref Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:12pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717057)
If my mind was ALWAYS blank, wouldn't I be a vegetable?
It's like stomping a puppy.

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:13pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717057)
If my mind was ALWAYS blank, wouldn't I be a vegetable?
I dunno. Does Mrs. Chseagle water you twice a week? :D

BktBallRef Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:18pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717022)
I was trying to think of other reasons but my mind went blank
Obviously.

just another ref Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:23pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 717082)
No, but I do water her at least 2x a week :eek::rolleyes:;):D

OTOH If I were a vegetable I'd be forever stuck in a hospital, & wouldn't do anything at games.

Or on message boards. One can only hope.


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