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Freddy Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:39pm

Stacked Cheerleaders
 
At an area gym, the cheerleaders usually line up in single file with backs to the wall off the endline. Due to the roomy nature of the area off the endline, there has never really been a problem with them getting in the way when we needed to work deep. But they did something different last night which we needed to address. They took up half the lateral area but chose to stack themselves two and sometimes three deep, which brought them closer to the endline and in our way from time-to-time.
The cheerleading coach was advised of our desire for them to revert to a single-deep lineup and outside the free throw lanes extended. She complied but asked her AD what rule existed that she didn't know about. He asked me, and so I'm asking you.
I can't find anything in the NFHS books nor from our state association about cheerleaders on the endline.
Do you know of some documentation that prohibits or addresses this?

BillyMac Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:46pm

Freddy Certainly Got My Attention ...
 
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 715130)
Stacked Cheerleaders

Deceptive thread titles should be banned from the Forum. This is low hanging fruit. No challenge. I'm sure that Mark Padgett will be moseying along shortly to post an image.

JRutledge Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:46pm

I will admit that I thought this thread was going in another direction. ;)

That being said there are no rules from the NF, but maybe rules from your state or local organizations that mandate this. Cheerleaders are not a right and unless there is some standard if they get in your way they can be moved. Cheerleaders and their coaches should have enough sense to realize that if someone is near them they should move. But that is not always the case.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:48pm

NFHS rule 2-8-1NOTE..."When team supporters become unruly or interfere with the game, the officials shall stop the game until the host management resolves the situation and the game can proceed in an orderly manner."

If they're in the way, get host management to clear 'em out.

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:49pm

This might fall under 2-3. I was going to say, "Don't be a plumber." Know your audience is a good credo.

Adam Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:57pm

Unless your state or locale has a standard, then it's strictly a safety issue. I simply remind the cheerleaders that if there's a collision, I'm not going to be the one who gets hurt (most likely).
If the cheer coach is talking to you, remind her of that fact, and of the fact that we run full speed sometimes with our heads turned the other direction.
And, as JR alludes, to, as far as we're concerned, the cheerleaders are fans.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 12, 2011 06:58pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 715131)
I'm sure that Mark Padgett will be moseying along shortly to post an image.

Too easy. Unless, of course, they were male cheerleaders. :eek:

Judtech Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:01pm

What does a pancake fund raiser have to do with........

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715140)
And, as JR alludes, to, as far as we're concerned, the cheerleaders are fans.

They sureasheck are team supporters and thus are covered under 2-8-1NOTE

BktBallRef Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 715130)
At an area gym, the cheerleaders usually line up in single file with backs to the wall off the endline. Due to the roomy nature of the area off the endline, there has never really been a problem with them getting in the way when we needed to work deep. But they did something different last night which we needed to address. They took up half the lateral area but chose to stack themselves two and sometimes three deep, which brought them closer to the endline and in our way from time-to-time.
The cheerleading coach was advised of our desire for them to revert to a single-deep lineup and outside the free throw lanes extended. She complied but asked her AD what rule existed that she didn't know about. He asked me, and so I'm asking you.
I can't find anything in the NFHS books nor from our state association about cheerleaders on the endline.
Do you know of some documentation that prohibits or addresses this?

The NFHS prints a Spirit and Cheer Manual. In it, it states that cheerleaders are NOT allowed to stand during a live ball.

Our state association went a step further and included it in the state handbook.

Sure wish the Fed would put it in the basketball rule book. Wouldn't that be a dandy idea?

Adam Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:26pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 715159)
They sureasheck are team supporters and thus are covered under 2-11-1NOTE

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Originally Posted by 2-11-1 note
It is recommended the team member's numbers be entered into the scorebook in numerical order.

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Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715162)
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Chaned to correct cite...2-8-1NOTE

Raymond Wed Jan 12, 2011 07:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 715130)
The cheerleading coach was advised of our desire for them to revert to a single-deep lineup and outside the free throw lanes extended. She complied but asked her AD what rule existed that she didn't know about. He asked me, and so I'm asking you...
...I can't find anything in the NFHS books nor from our state association about cheerleaders on the endline.
Do you know of some documentation that prohibits or addresses this?


Oh, I don't know. Maybe the Common Sense rule. Or the Safety rule.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715140)
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If the cheer coach is talking to you....

In my single days this happened frequently :D:cool:

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 12, 2011 08:00pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 715182)

In my single days this happened frequently

And in her two-word response, I know what the word before "you" was.

zm1283 Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:56pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 715182)
Oh, I don't know. Maybe the Common Sense rule. Or the Safety rule.



In my single days this happened frequently :D:cool:

I still get to do that because my wife is a cheer coach.:D


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