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OnePutt Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:34am

flashing on the endline
 
Had a GV game last night where the visiting coach complained about a photographer using flash photography under his goal. He was stationed against the wall behind the visitor's basket. I couldn't cite any rule against this except possible concern for the players safety. There was plenty of room between the endline and the wall (12 to 15 ft), so a collision was not likely. At a break I went and spoke with the photographer and told him what was going on. He politely said he'd stop shooting. As I was leaving he said, "Couldn't have anything to do with him being down 20 would it?" :D

Judtech Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:09am

My bad, I thought this post was about Padgetts "New" officiating jacket/trenchcoat.

Raymond Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:51am

Probably one I would leave up to game mgmt.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 713065)
My bad, I thought this post was about Padgetts "New" officiating jacket/trenchcoat.

Don't do it on the endline - too far away from the hot moms. ;)

BTW - our local kids rec league has a rule prohibiting taking flash pictures during play from anywhere in the gym. In all my years, I've never had anyone complain about it when told to stop. They can take all the pictures they want, just not with their flash. They can use the flash during timeouts and warmups, etc.

Rufus Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:10pm

Boy did I think this topic was going in a different direction...

Actually had this the other day at a sub-varsity game. Two flash generators posted up on a catwalk above the court. Wasn't really distracting and nobody complained about it.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:23pm

When I saw the title of this post I immediately thought of a game that a Canadian officiating friend of mine once worked. I will not use real names to protect the guilty.

He was officiating a women's game between a Canadian college (home team) and a national team from one of the Scandanavian countries (visiting team). Prior to the start of the game it was discovered that the Vistor's were wearing their "home" jerseys. It was decided that the Home team would lend the Visitor's team their "away" jerseys. It was thought that the Visitor's would retire to the locker room to change jerseys, but the Visitor's decided to change jerseys at courtside. There was a collective sucking of air out of the arena as everybody discovered the most of the Visitor's not only did not wear sports bras, they did not wear bras at all. :eek:

MTD, Sr.

chartrusepengui Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:26pm

Ya just gotta LOVE those Canadians!! :D

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:27pm

Getting serious now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnePutt (Post 713054)
Had a GV game last night where the visiting coach complained about a photographer using flash photography under his goal. He was stationed against the wall behind the visitor's basket. I couldn't cite any rule against this except possible concern for the players safety. There was plenty of room between the endline and the wall (12 to 15 ft), so a collision was not likely. At a break I went and spoke with the photographer and told him what was going on. He politely said he'd stop shooting. As I was leaving he said, "Couldn't have anything to do with him being down 20 would it?" :D


I am uncomfortable with anybody but officials along the endline. If you think that a photographer poses a problem politely instruct him to move. If he does not want to move, have game managemnt move him. The safety of the players trump the First Amendment rights of the photographer.

MTD, Sr.

bbcof83 Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:33pm

Am I nuts for recalling most sports photogs going flash-less when shooting indoors? I could see how you might need one for a night football game if the lights are poor. But in a gym? Get a new freakin' camera!

Camron Rust Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:56pm

Unless the state has guideline to the contrary, this would be a game management issue.

Oregon's state policy:
FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
Flash photography, including on-and-off camera flash/ strobe units, is permitted at all OSAA events. Remote flash/ strobe units should be used wherever possible. Please avoid shooting directly into participants' eyes with flash-mounted units.
Your state probably has something similar.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 713137)
It was thought that the Visitor's would retire to the locker room to change jerseys, but the Visitor's decided to change jerseys at courtside.

Two questions:

1) did they change shorts, too
2) was everyone looking at the hair under their arms - oh wait, the team wasn't from France :p

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 713137)
When I saw the title of this post I immediately thought of a game that a Canadian officiating friend of mine once worked. I will not use real names to protect the guilty.

He was officiating a women's game between a Canadian college (home team) and a national team from one of the Scandanavian countries (visiting team). Prior to the start of the game it was discovered that the Vistor's were wearing their "home" jerseys. It was decided that the Home team would lend the Visitor's team their "away" jerseys. It was thought that the Visitor's would retire to the locker room to change jerseys, but the Visitor's decided to change jerseys at courtside. There was a collective sucking of air out of the arena as everybody discovered the most of the Visitor's not only did not wear sports bras, they did not wear bras at all. :eek:

MTD, Sr.

Methinks BillyMac has a new nominee for Post O the Week.

fullor30 Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnePutt (Post 713054)
Had a GV game last night where the visiting coach complained about a photographer using flash photography under his goal. He was stationed against the wall behind the visitor's basket. I couldn't cite any rule against this except possible concern for the players safety. There was plenty of room between the endline and the wall (12 to 15 ft), so a collision was not likely. At a break I went and spoke with the photographer and told him what was going on. He politely said he'd stop shooting. As I was leaving he said, "Couldn't have anything to do with him being down 20 would it?" :D

Funny, I was doing a state tourney game last year and photographer was on endline popping flashes. I politely asked him to stop and of course he became huffy and continued. We had him chased by management and at half there is a knock on our door and he trys to barge in demanding our names. Of course the standard Mendy Rudolph, Sid Borgia, Dick Bavetta stuff came up as we shooed him away....................ant.

Adam Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 713180)
Funny, I was doing a state tourney game last year and photographer was on endline popping flashes. I politely asked him to stop and of course he became huffy and continued. We had him chased by management and at half there is a knock on our door and he trys to barge in demanding our names. Of course the standard Mendy Rudolph, Sid Borgia, Dick Bavetta stuff came up as we shooed him away....................ant.

Your state tourney didn't have game management able to prevent him from getting to your locker room?

mbyron Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 713165)
Unless the state has guideline to the contrary, this would be a game management issue.

Oregon's state policy:
FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
Flash photography, including on-and-off camera flash/ strobe units, is permitted at all OSAA events. Remote flash/ strobe units should be used wherever possible. Please avoid shooting directly into participants' eyes with flash-mounted units.
Your state probably has something similar.

Ohio's policy for 2010-11 can be found on the last page of this document:
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/GenSportsReg10-11.pdf

It's a bit too long to post.

fullor30 Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 713184)
Your state tourney didn't have game management able to prevent him from getting to your locker room?

No armed guards or TSA screening procedures.

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:29pm

Had a photographer approach me earlier this week about taking flash photography. I told him not during FTs and if the coaches were fine, I was okay with it. He said he would be wide i.e. near the wall and by the arc and would stay out of the way.

He should have thrown away his film [or deleted his memory card]. It was an ugly game and deserved no photographic record.

Adam Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 713188)
No armed guards or TSA screening procedures.

Give it time. :D

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 713192)
Give it time. :D

Maybe he should have asked for his boarding pass and photo ID....

fullor30 Fri Jan 07, 2011 02:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 713192)
Give it time. :D

Ha! By the way, state tourney in my state means the whole tournament. I imagine for finals downstate, they may have had a sheriff Fife at the door.

They actually put us in a classroom close to court as locker room was pretty far away. We could see him knocking on glass window as we pretty much ignored him

chseagle Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:37pm

Leave it to the Europeans for something like this.

Go use a restroom over there & you'll end up with a member of the opposite gender in there with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 713137)
When I saw the title of this post I immediately thought of a game that a Canadian officiating friend of mine once worked. I will not use real names to protect the guilty.

He was officiating a women's game between a Canadian college (home team) and a national team from one of the Scandanavian countries (visiting team). Prior to the start of the game it was discovered that the Vistor's were wearing their "home" jerseys. It was decided that the Home team would lend the Visitor's team their "away" jerseys. It was thought that the Visitor's would retire to the locker room to change jerseys, but the Visitor's decided to change jerseys at courtside. There was a collective sucking of air out of the arena as everybody discovered the most of the Visitor's not only did not wear sports bras, they did not wear bras at all. :eek:

MTD, Sr.


bob jenkins Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713695)
Leave it to the Europeans for something like this.

Go use a restroom over there & you'll end up with a member of the opposite gender in there with you.

It's been a while since I've been to Europe, but I used to travel there regularly, and that never happened.

Rich Sun Jan 09, 2011 01:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 713707)
It's been a while since I've been to Europe, but I used to travel there regularly, and that never happened.

Me either, and I am in at least 2-3 European countries every summer.

JRutledge Sun Jan 09, 2011 01:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 713731)
Me either, and I am in at least 2-3 European countries every summer.

Well I have only been the one European country and that did not happen. But then again that was in an airport. Nothing like that in Africa either. ;)

Peace

DesMoines Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:12am

Filed under "other endline problems" ... We were given some instructions at the beginning of the year to meet with the cheerleaders before the game so that we didn't have collision (or sportsmanship) problems.

BillyMac Sun Jan 09, 2011 02:24pm

My Worst Nightmare ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnePutt (Post 713054)
Flashing on the endline.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 713065)
I thought this post was about Padgetts "New" officiating jacket/trenchcoat.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...dc13&index=ch1

chseagle Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 713707)
It's been a while since I've been to Europe, but I used to travel there regularly, and that never happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 713731)
Me either, and I am in at least 2-3 European countries every summer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 713732)
Well I have only been the one European country and that did not happen. But then again that was in an airport. Nothing like that in Africa either. ;)

Peace

I would guess then that the unisex restrooms in Europe are being phased out then.

BillyMac Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:27pm

Not That There's Any Thing Wrong With It ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713914)
I would guess then that the unisex restrooms in Europe are being phased out then.

Damn good thing too. Those unisexuals were taking over the continent.

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...2faa&index=ch1

Adam Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713914)
I would guess then that the unisex restrooms in Europe are being phased out then.

Methinks you heard rumor of a fad that never really caught on.

Rich Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713914)
I would guess then that the unisex restrooms in Europe are being phased out then.

The only unisex restrooms anywhere I've been are single hole units with locks on the door.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 10, 2011 08:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 713926)
The only unisex restrooms anywhere I've been are single hole units with locks on the door.

Exactly.

IOW, another in a long line of misconceptions.


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