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CMHCoachNRef Thu Jan 06, 2011 09:27pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 712819)
It might be part of the "Don't talk to the media" and maintain neutrality mantra and got misworded or we got some people trying get a bit too friendly.

We got an email this week from our association secretary to have clothes on when working with female officials, AD's, and team personal, not quite sure who around here is doing this but it makes you wonder...


The JV thing is nice but doesnt quite address the question our association sent them. Which is how does this count for player's quarter limit and if "overtime" in this case is counted as an extension of the last quarter or counts as another quarter against the player's limit.
The Facebook thing is just common sense. If you are officiating high school basketball/soccer/volleyball, it does not look good when your list of facebook friends includes the good looking point guard (or ugly point guard for that matter) for one of the two teams you are officiating next week. Don't think for a minute that someone for the OTHER TEAM won't discover that little fun fact some how. Never mind the "problems" created by interacting with a minor online. They are just reminding us to be careful.

While we do not typically have the JV problem listed, overtime is always considered to be an extension of the final quarter -- the overtime will only be three minutes in length. Therefore, it is not an official quarter contributing to the 5-quarter per day maximum permitted by the OHSAA.

Raymond Thu Jan 06, 2011 09:27pm
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 712821)
Trying to find which illustration in the back of the book legitimizes an index finger point. Am I missing something here? :confused:



Oh, that clarifies it. :eek:
Never said it was in the back of the book. Never had a supervisor or observer tell me to stop either. :D

Adam Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 712823)
The Facebook thing is just common sense. If you are officiating high school basketball/soccer/volleyball, it does not look good when your list of facebook friends includes the good looking point guard (or ugly point guard for that matter) for one of the two teams you are officiating next week. Don't think for a minute that someone for the OTHER TEAM won't discover that little fun fact some how. Never mind the "problems" created by interacting with a minor online. They are just reminding us to be careful.

While we do not typically have the JV problem listed, overtime is always considered to be an extension of the final quarter -- the overtime will only be three minutes in length. Therefore, it is not an official quarter contributing to the 5-quarter per day maximum permitted by the OHSAA.
Agreed on the facebook; but it's apparent that common sense doesn't always prevail. I can't imagine any reason to send a friend request to any local player, "particularly of the opposite gender." The last thing I need is more teenagers clogging my FB feed.

You play 6 minute quarters in JV?

SNIPERBBB Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:40pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712842)
Agreed on the facebook; but it's apparent that common sense doesn't always prevail. I can't imagine any reason to send a friend request to any local player, "particularly of the opposite gender." The last thing I need is more teenagers clogging my FB feed.

You play 6 minute quarters in JV?
Girls usually play 6 minutes and boys play 7 in this area for JV.

Eastshire Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 712861)
Girls usually play 6 minutes and boys play 7 in this area for JV.
We also do a weird 6 minute 1st and 3rd and 7 minute 2nd and 4th combo in NW Ohio for sub-varsity.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:48am
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 712799)
And suddenly I have this image of BillyMac in a bathrobe with a half consumed bottle of wine on his desk giggling at his computer monitor.

:D
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712802)
Sorry. I didn't realize my webcam was on.
Log off from chatroulette!

Adam Fri Jan 07, 2011 01:05am
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Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 712868)
We also do a weird 6 minute 1st and 3rd and 7 minute 2nd and 4th combo in NW Ohio for sub-varsity.
So OTs are, what, 3:15?

Eastshire Fri Jan 07, 2011 06:33am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712906)
So OTs are, what, 3:15?
I used 3:00 for the one OT I've had so far.

mbyron Fri Jan 07, 2011 08:42am
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 712793)
I'm surprised Lord Byon has not chimed in yet.
Not sure whether you were referring to me, but I do seem to recollect that the state's rationale for using the PC signal for both PC and TC fouls is that it helps everyone understand that we won't be shooting free throws.

Hey, don't roll your eyes at me, buster, it's not my rationale.

CMHCoachNRef Fri Jan 07, 2011 09:33am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712842)
Agreed on the facebook; but it's apparent that common sense doesn't always prevail. I can't imagine any reason to send a friend request to any local player, "particularly of the opposite gender." The last thing I need is more teenagers clogging my FB feed.

You play 6 minute quarters in JV?
It is not the officials who send the initial invite, it is frequently players. I have two high school-aged sons and have coached many of their friends in basketball, soccer, baseball or volleyball over the years. Since I still play soccer and a little basketball, the players can relate to me better than many of the other parents. Hence, I will get the occasional friend request FROM a player (always been a friend of one of my sons). We just have to be VERY careful in this area.

The Catholic League and some others play 6-minute quarters FR and JV while many other leagues play 7-minute quarters.

Refsmitty Fri Jan 07, 2011 09:37am
:d
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Originally Posted by billymac (Post 712802)
sorry. I didn't realize my webcam was on.

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 07, 2011 09:38am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712906)
So OTs are, what, 3:15?
3 minutes for the 1st OT. 3:30 for the 2nd. 3 minutes for the 3rd. etc.

Adam Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 713038)
It is not the officials who send the initial invite, it is frequently players. I have two high school-aged sons and have coached many of their friends in basketball, soccer, baseball or volleyball over the years. Since I still play soccer and a little basketball, the players can relate to me better than many of the other parents. Hence, I will get the occasional friend request FROM a player (always been a friend of one of my sons). We just have to be VERY careful in this area.

The Catholic League and some others play 6-minute quarters FR and JV while many other leagues play 7-minute quarters.
Based on the directive quoted, the problem is officials making the invites. At least that's how I read it. Your situation is different; my kids are younger (oldest is still in elementary) so I don't have this issue. I'm leary enough about being friends with the young adults who were kids when we moved away from our church 5 years ago.

But I can understand if my kids' friends send requests in a few years.

OTOH, I've already experienced some issues with younger airmen in my unit. There are just some things an NCO doesn't need to know.

Eastshire Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 713088)
Based on the directive quoted, the problem is officials making the invites. At least that's how I read it. Your situation is different; my kids are younger (oldest is still in elementary) so I don't have this issue. I'm leary enough about being friends with the young adults who were kids when we moved away from our church 5 years ago.

But I can understand if my kids' friends send requests in a few years.

OTOH, I've already experienced some issues with younger airmen in my unit. There are just some things an NCO doesn't need to know.
You'd think there would be things an airman wouldn't want his NCO to know.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712796)
"Finally, extra caution should be taken when getting involved with Facebook or other internet social media. Officials should never be making attempts to befriend players, in particular, of the opposite gender."

Ohio officials have to be told this ????

Billy:

I am not a friend on my better half's Facebook Page nor am I a friend on our sons' Facebook Pages. Why? I do not have a Facebook Page. LOL

MTD, Sr.


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