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slow whistle Wed Jan 05, 2011 09:59am

coach tech
 
Looking for opinions on the correct way to handle this. GV game, end of half there is a frantic scramble under the basket and a girl gets a half hearted attempt off before the buzzer, but it is from way behind her head and the defense gets her hand on top of it - shooter may have been jostled a bit, but it didn't warrant a foul IMO so no call. We go to center court and coach is walking out with his team and gets testy about the no call. I just explain what I saw and he turns to walk away and grumbled something under his breath that I didn't quite understand so I let him go...but it got me to thinking if you tech a coach in that situation where teams are walkng off the floor at halftime do you blow your whistle and draw attention to the scene or do you just signal it so he knows and walk to the table to let them know what you have?

tref Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:01am

Put coach on blast :D

Rich Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:02am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 712095)
Looking for opinions on the correct way to handle this. GV game, end of half there is a frantic scramble under the basket and a girl gets a half hearted attempt off before the buzzer, but it is from way behind her head and the defense gets her hand on top of it - shooter may have been jostled a bit, but it didn't warrant a foul IMO so no call. We go to center court and coach is walking out with his team and gets testy about the no call. I just explain what I saw and he turns to walk away and grumbled something under his breath that I didn't quite understand so I let him go...but it got me to thinking if you tech a coach in that situation where teams are walkng off the floor at halftime do you blow your whistle and draw attention to the scene or do you just signal it so he knows and walk to the table to let them know what you have?

You let everyone know you called it, but this is one where you let the coach have his uninformed say and let him go back to the locker room.

Did you wait at center court behind the circle until both teams cleared? Force the coach to go out of his way to say something, if he's so inclined.

slow whistle Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:28am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 712097)
You let everyone know you called it, but this is one where you let the coach have his uninformed say and let him go back to the locker room.

Did you wait at center court behind the circle until both teams cleared? Force the coach to go out of his way to say something, if he's so inclined.

I don't recall exactly where we were, we were walking toward the center circle, but to your point good suggestion to stay as far back as possible. At this point his team was walking off right after the buzzer so he was probably almost to the center circle to complain, but then had to go back to get his clipboard - so he wasn't "walking off" per se, he was walking out to complain. When he passed us again he didn't say anything. Agree with you about letting him have a little rope here as long as he moves on quickly, but I THOUGHT I heard the words "piss poor" in there as he walked away mumbling - had I been sure that is what was said, venting or no venting I wouldn't have let that go.

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:43am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 712097)
Did you wait at center court behind the circle until both teams cleared? Force the coach to go out of his way to say something, if he's so inclined.

SOP in football and basketball. Keep t'hell away from the coaches at the half and at the end of a game. If they do come to you, deal with it.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 712115)
... I THOUGHT I heard the words "piss poor" in there as he walked away mumbling

Maybe he was talking about his coaching? ;)

BillyMac Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:36pm

Head 'Em Off At The Pass ...
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 712097)
Did you wait at center court behind the circle until both teams cleared?

We had a coach once who waited for us at the table, figuring we had to check in with the table crew, and pick up our jackets. He figured wrong. After waiting in the center circle for about three, or four, minutes, we just headed straight to the locker room, figuring we would grab at jackets at the end of the game. Silly coaches.

chartrusepengui Wed Jan 05, 2011 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712159)
we just headed straight to the locker room, figuring we would grab at jackets at the end of the game.

Last night - went to pick up jackets after everyone left the court and couldn't find them. Went to locker room - and there they are. Next to each jacket and nice cold bottle of water and a certificate for a sub from the local sub shop for our dinner after the game. I hope I go back. Really nice place that treats you very well!!

Rich Wed Jan 05, 2011 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712159)
We had a coach once who waited for us at the table, figuring we had to check in with the table crew, and pick up our jackets. He figured wrong. After waiting in the center circle for about three, or four, minutes, we just headed straight to the locker room, figuring we would grab at jackets at the end of the game. Silly coaches.

I would ask the game manager or athletic director if he/she would kindly retrieve our jackets for us at the table.

Or if I was feeling stubborn, I'd just spend my halftime at the center circle. The coach will leave eventually.

BillyMac Wed Jan 05, 2011 01:42pm

Tastes Great, Less Filling ...
 
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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 712173)
nice cold bottle of water. I hope I go back. Really nice place that treats you very well!!

Sounds nice, but not as nice as the private prep school that we service that has cold beer waiting for us in the locker room.

biggravy Thu Jan 06, 2011 07:58pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712197)
Sounds nice, but not as nice as the private prep school that we service that has cold beer waiting for us in the locker room.

At halftime! :D

BillyMac Thu Jan 06, 2011 08:02pm

But We're What You Call Professionals ...
 
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Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 712800)
At halftime!

It's there. It's certainly tempting.

grunewar Thu Jan 06, 2011 09:29pm

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 712173)
Last night - went to pick up jackets after everyone left the court and couldn't find them. Went to locker room - and there they are. Next to each jacket and nice cold bottle of water and a certificate for a sub from the local sub shop for our dinner after the game. I hope I go back. Really nice place that treats you very well!!

Where do I sign up for this gig!? That's great.

Best I've had was at an elite Holiday Tournament a fews backs where we had the entire snackbar at our disposal - anything we wanted - soda, gatorade, water, pizza, hotdogs, pretzels, etc.

I was told by one of the vets they used to have an entire seperate room for the officials with food spread out for the entire day. Ah, the good ole days......

Adam Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 712826)
Where do I sign up for this gig!? That's great.

Best I've had was at an elite Holiday Tournament a fews backs where we had the entire snackbar at our disposal - anything we wanted - soda, gatorade, water, pizza, hotdogs, pretzels, etc.

I was told by one of the vets they used to have an entire seperate room for the officials with food spread out for the entire day. Ah, the good ole days......

I went an observed a game a few weeks ago where there was a "Courtesy Room" for officials, bus drivers, etc. Since I wasn't working, I just sat and visited with the crew, but it was a pretty nice spread.

chseagle Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:16pm

That's kind of like the setup we had for the 3A/4A Regionals last year with the green room being used for event staff & coaches.

However not gonna be seeing that anymore as the Regionals are a thing of the past thanks to a new playoff setup.

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 712826)
Where do I sign up for this gig!? That's great.

Best I've had was at an elite Holiday Tournament a fews backs where we had the entire snackbar at our disposal - anything we wanted - soda, gatorade, water, pizza, hotdogs, pretzels, etc.

I was told by one of the vets they used to have an entire seperate room for the officials with food spread out for the entire day. Ah, the good ole days......



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