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AK ref SE Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:37am

What is your take on players wearing rubberbands around there wrist?

stripes Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:45am

They can take it off and play.

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:46am

Sometimes...
 
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Originally posted by AK ref SE
What is your take on players wearing rubberbands around there wrist?
Sometimes I take 'em.
Sometimes they (the rubberbands, not the players) go to the bench.
Everytime, they go away.

AK ref SE Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:50am

Where in the rules does it say that they cannot wear them....that is the response from the coach.....I had the players take them off.

AK ref SE

stripes Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:51am

Its a safety issue. However remote, it won't happen on my watch.

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:55am

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Originally posted by AK ref SE
Where in the rules does it say that they cannot wear them....that is the response from the coach.....I had the players take them off.

AK ref SE

Rule 3-5 (First paragraph) The referee shall not permit... equipment or apparel... dangerous or confusing... or is not appropriate.

stan-MI Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:17am

The rules also allow wristbands with elastic. A rubber band is just a wristband without the cloth. I ask players to remove them due to the slight danger, but if they don't, I don't get too worked up over it.

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:39am

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Originally posted by stan-MI
The rules also allow wristbands with elastic. A rubber band is just a wristband without the cloth. I ask players to remove them due to the slight danger, but if they don't, I don't get too worked up over it.
stan,
I don't ask.
I just say, "Make the rubberband go away."
We ain't votin'. :)

ChuckElias Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:41am

I agree. The rubber bands go away. I've even had to have a player take rubber bands off of his ankles. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

AK ref SE Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:59am

rubberbands on ankles.....ankle bracelets on referees...HHHMMM
I guess i better start looking at peoples ankles.

AK ref SE

rgaudreau Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:22pm

Okay, i`ll bite!!

Why the heck would a player want a rubber band around his or her wrist!!!

Rene

ChuckElias Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:41pm

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Originally posted by rgaudreau
Why the heck would a player want a rubber band around his or her wrist!!!
Because it's the only "jewelry" that the NBA allows on its players. So that's what the NBA players wear. So that's what the kids want to wear.

Chuck

Barry C. Morris Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:43pm

Because Kobe Bryant wears them and if they wear them, they will be magically induced with the same abilities as Kobe.

Bart Tyson Wed Oct 16, 2002 01:47pm

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Originally posted by AK ref SE
rubberbands on ankles.....ankle bracelets on referees...HHHMMM
I guess i better start looking at peoples ankles.

AK ref SE

The rules do allow wristbands with elastic. I have seen in writting from the NCAA stating no rubberbands. However, no one has said anything about ankles. So, i have allowed them to take the rubberband off the wrist and put it on the ankle.

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 01:53pm

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Originally posted by Bart Tyson

The rules do allow wristbands with elastic. I have seen in writting from the NCAA stating no rubberbands. However, no one has said anything about ankles. So, i have allowed them to take the rubberband off the wrist and put it on the ankle.

How 'bout the ears, or bicep, or calves> :)

AK ref SE Wed Oct 16, 2002 02:17pm

I have an Email into the state...and asked for there ruling to determine what the state wants.....That way if the state says its okay...then I will not deal with it.....if the state goes the other way.....it should be enforced evenly where the players go in the state

AK ref SE

Bart Tyson Wed Oct 16, 2002 02:24pm

good point Mick. As some have suggusted it is a safty issue. I don't see any safty issue concerning a rubberband.

stripes Wed Oct 16, 2002 03:15pm

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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
good point Mick. As some have suggusted it is a safty issue. I don't see any safty issue concerning a rubberband.

Catch a finger in it and lots of bad things can happen. As I said before, the chance is remote, but it won't happen when I'm working because it will be off the wrist.

Mark Padgett Wed Oct 16, 2002 03:19pm

A few years ago in a rec game, I had a kid get his finger caught under another players rubber band and it dislocated his finger. I know the odds against that are astronomical, but it happened.

From that day on - no rubber bands - period.

Mark Dexter Wed Oct 16, 2002 04:40pm

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by stan-MI
The rules also allow wristbands with elastic. A rubber band is just a wristband without the cloth. I ask players to remove them due to the slight danger, but if they don't, I don't get too worked up over it.
stan,
I don't ask.
I just say, "Make the rubberband go away."
We ain't votin'. :)

Just as an aside, somewhat of a legal tip (both rules-wise and liability wise in some cases):

The R has no authority to order a player to remove any dangerous article, just the authority to prohibit a player from playing with those dangerous articles.

Listen carefully the next time you're at an airport security checkpoint. They (should) say, "May I look in your bag?" instead of "Let me search your bag."

stripes Wed Oct 16, 2002 05:04pm

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Listen carefully the next time you're at an airport security checkpoint. They (should) say, "May I look in your bag?" instead of "Let me search your bag."

yeah, but if you say no, they still won't let you on the plane until they look at it and you'll have more trouble than you bargained for. :D

Mark Dexter Wed Oct 16, 2002 05:37pm

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Originally posted by stripes
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Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Listen carefully the next time you're at an airport security checkpoint. They (should) say, "May I look in your bag?" instead of "Let me search your bag."

yeah, but if you say no, they still won't let you on the plane until they look at it and you'll have more trouble than you bargained for. :D

Same thing with jewelery - if the player tries to come in with it on, they won't play.

Also, a rubber band is definately more of a safety issue than a sweatband. First, a sweatband is usually more visible than a rubbber band, both size and colorwise. Also, a snapped rubber band can probably do more damage than a snapped sweatband.

bob jenkins Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:15pm

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Bart Tyson

The rules do allow wristbands with elastic. I have seen in writting from the NCAA stating no rubberbands. However, no one has said anything about ankles. So, i have allowed them to take the rubberband off the wrist and put it on the ankle.

How 'bout the ears, or bicep, or calves> :)

I think it's okay for a player to put her ears, bicep or claves around the ankles.

Of course, I prefer it when the ankles are up around the ears ... ;)

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:20pm

uh...
 
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Originally posted by bob jenkins


... when the ankles are up around the ears ... ;)

Does that then make the rubber bands "necessary equipment"? :confused:

ChuckElias Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:23pm

You guys are in such big trouble when Juulie gets here!!! :eek:

Chuck :D

mick Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:33pm

Not me.
 
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
You guys are in such big trouble when Juulie gets here!!! :eek:

Chuck :D

I'm just trying to learn.
( ...anyway, Bob started it.)

bigwhistle Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:37pm

If you weren't wearing it when you were born....it is jewelry!!

ChuckElias Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:45pm

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Originally posted by bigwhistle
If you weren't wearing it when you were born....it is jewelry!!
If all those guys play naked, how will you tell the teams apart? :eek:

Chuck

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 16, 2002 09:55pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by bigwhistle
If you weren't wearing it when you were born....it is jewelry!!
If all those guys play naked, how will you tell the teams apart? :eek:

Chuck

You've heard of "shirts vs.skins",haven't ya,Chuck? Just play "shorts vs. longs" instead! :D

Hoosier Daddy Wed Oct 16, 2002 10:32pm

I tell them they won't play any better with them on. Or make a joke and say that we can't have players with rubberbands because it makes them play better.

tharbert Fri Oct 18, 2002 03:10pm

You guys better brace yourselves. I took my kid to get basketball shoes the other day. The sales clerk tossed my son a handful of .5" wide rubber bands with logos printed on them. They were different colors. I expect these are headed to a mall near you.

BTW, I have players remove them.

ScottParks Fri Oct 18, 2002 03:41pm

Rubber bands will be removed in any of my games, period. This also includes those "friendship" bracelets made out of rope-like material. They ususally say they can't remove them because they either can't fit it over their hand or the girlfriend won't like it. I say OK, but you can't play. Amazingly, it comes off right away.

rainmaker Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:27pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
You guys are in such big trouble when Juulie gets here!!! :eek:

Chuck :D

"I just heard from God, and boy, is She pissed!"

ChuckElias Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:15am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
"I just heard from God, and boy, is She pissed!"
Wow, I guess I need to brush up on my Quaker theology!! ;)

Chuck

bob jenkins Sat Oct 19, 2002 08:00pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
"I just heard from God, and boy, is She pissed!"
Yeah -- that happens every four weeks or so.

(ducking and running)


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