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bainsey Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:28pm

Transition to one-on-one
 
You're the T (two man). There's a quick steal near the division line, and we're going the other way, one on one, with you as the L.

Do you...
*Sprint to the end-line right away, regardless of where the players are?
*Hang back a bit until the layup?
*Let your eyes determine your spot on the floor?

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 710477)
You're the T (two man). There's a quick steal near the division line, and we're going the other way, one on one, with you as the L.

Do you...
*Sprint to the end-line right away, regardless of where the players are?
*Hang back a bit until the layup?
*Let your eyes determine your spot on the floor?

Move to improve.

DLH17 Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:36pm

I'd have to say "hustle to the end line". I've yet to hear anyone complain about an official that is always hustling.

One exception, though. If the transition occurs on my side and the ball handler is directly in front of or moving directly up the court towards me at a quick rate, I hold my position oob and let the player(s) move up the court. Then, I sprint to catch up and/or get to the end line - maintaining a good angle - for the finish in the paint.

Freddy Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:37pm

Don't Get Hit in the Back of the Head!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 710477)
You're the T (two man). There's a quick steal near the division line, and we're going the other way, one on one, with you as the L.

Do you...
*Sprint to the end-line right away, regardless of where the players are?
*Hang back a bit until the layup?
*Let your eyes determine your spot on the floor?

I'll take a stab . . . . . .

A. Sprint, yes. But don't let that keep you from using your head as a periscope looking back at the play. You need to see the play as it's transitioning down court. No sense sprinting to the endline only to miss a necessary call before the dribbler gets that far.
B. If you get beat, that's ok. "Loop back" when the play passes you, prioritizing getting a good angle on the play that develops in front of you.
C. ???

Especially tricky, as I found again last week, when a shot goes up from across the court from you near the three point arc. Neither you, from across the court transitioning, nor your partner, still transitioning and likely yet in the backcourt, have a good look at this one. Good luck seeing if it's a two or a three, cuz this is a difficult one to get. That's apparently why they pay you and me the big bucks.

Sound solid?

RobbyinTN Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:54pm

Depends on how quick they are :D

I usually sprint down and get at the end line, keeping my head turned so I can see the players or if they get past me, I stay behind them. Since most often a quick steal will result in a lay up try, I want to ensure I don't miss a foul if it were to occur.

Welpe Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:59pm

My rookie class was trained a bit differently. We were taught in this situation to get down around the free throw line extended, get set and referee the initial fast break. If the shot was missed or not taken, then we were to work down to the end line.

Our trainer said that by doing this we had a better look while stationary than trying to beat the players down the court and take the whole play in.

Freddy Tue Dec 28, 2010 05:23pm

Video Clips of Your Sitch
 
From the NFHS video collection, accessed either from the NFHS website or through the NFHS Hub on Arbiter, here are two instances of your situation:

New lead hustling to get a good look at the play from the endline:
Dartfish.tv - Channel NFHS Basketball Officials Education Channel videos

New lead "getting beat" but looping back to try to get a good angle on the play which demanded a call:
http://www.dartfish.tv/WebPresenter/....aspx?CR=p2552, search word "beat" to a clip entitled "Transition: Lead Beat on Play"

BillyMac Tue Dec 28, 2010 05:36pm

Follow The Bouncing Ball ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 710492)
Our trainer said that by doing this we had a better look while stationary.

Agree. Avoid bouncing eyeballs syndrome.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...1196afcafda51e

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 28, 2010 06:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 710479)
Move to improve.

Aka move to get into position to see the separation between the dribbler and the defender. Usually the absolute worse thing that you can do is sprint. All that does is usually get you straight-lined. I don't care how fast you think you are, you are not going to get to the endline and then get across it to get a good look at any contact.

just another ref Tue Dec 28, 2010 06:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurassic referee (Post 710499)
aka move to get into position to see the separation between the dribbler and the defender. Usually the absolute worse thing that you can do is sprint. All that does is usually get you straight-lined. I don't care how fast you think you are, you are not going to get to the endline and then get across it to get a good look at any contact.

+1

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 28, 2010 07:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 710499)
Aka move to get into position to see the separation between the dribbler and the defender. Usually the absolute worse thing that you can do is sprint. All that does is usually get you straight-lined. I don't care how fast you think you are, you are not going to get to the endline and then get across it to get a good look at any contact.

Exactly what I meant. I used to try to beat everyone down the court, and usually I could. But I found that often my angle was not great. Nobody is impressed that I am faster than kids on a fast break. So, if I am going to get beat, I am going to have the best angle I can on the play, which may be 10 feet to the side of the dribbler and defender which allows me to see any contact. Once that play has finished, I can get to my lead position outside the end line. I don't want to rely on a T or C at mid-court to see contact I couldn't see because I straight-lined myself.

TimTaylor Tue Dec 28, 2010 08:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurassic referee (Post 710499)
aka move to get into position to see the separation between the dribbler and the defender. Usually the absolute worse thing that you can do is sprint. All that does is usually get you straight-lined. I don't care how fast you think you are, you are not going to get to the endline and then get across it to get a good look at any contact.

+2

Mregor Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 710499)
Aka move to get into position to see the separation between the dribbler and the defender. Usually the absolute worse thing that you can do is sprint. All that does is usually get you straight-lined. I don't care how fast you think you are, you are not going to get to the endline and then get across it to get a good look at any contact.

This is the correct answer, IMO. I'll add that the best angle is normally a button hook towards the middle of the court to get a view of the separation. When the steal initially happens, I find it best to stay put and pivot to prevent running in to a player. From there, I'll move to get an angle which is most likely towards the middle fo the court so you can see the separation or lack thereof.


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