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Adam Thu Dec 23, 2010 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 709789)
Actually my argument is not solely from the fact that the NCAA considers this a single record, although they sure seem to with this headline from their website:
UConn eclipses UCLA with 89th winSubheadline: Moore's career-high 41 leads three Huskies in double figures
They didn't seem to split anything.
My argument is one from logic and is really answering the basic question: What NCAA basketball team has the most consecutive wins? There can only be one with "the most". That would be UConn without adding any additional qualifiers. Wayland Baptist was not NCAA. They were AAU. Whether the UConn record should be accorded the same acclaim as the men is a secondary question that can encompass all the other minutia.

You're right, it's even weaker than that. You've been quoting headlines that are obviously designed to trumpet the occasion. Headlines aren't evidence. I looked through the NCAA records that they post on their website, and all the apparently official records are separated.

Your asking a question many of us are saying is irrelevant. As I stated, the relevant numbers are either within their category or the NCAA as a whole. They've already passed 70, but 137 (the highest record for NCAA Division 1 consecutive team wins) is a ways away. Will 110 (when they pass the volleyball record) get the same hype as 89 did? I doubt it; because they want to have their record equated with Wooden's.

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 23, 2010 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 709743)
I am not 100% certain, but I believe women's college basketball was under a different umbrella before becoming an NCAA-sponsored sport sometime in the early '80's. That may explain why the Wayland team isn't listed under NCAA stats, because it wasn't an NCAA team.

You are wise beyond your years. The AAU was responsible for womens college basketball until 1971 and the the AIAW (Association For Intercollegiate Athletics For Women) took over until 1982. 1982 was the first year that the NCAA had any responsibility or association with womens basketball at all. And now the NCAA is ignoring everything that happened before 1982 while trying to compare a record set by the mens basketball D1 team years before their womens basketball division even existed.

If it didn't happen before 1982, it doesn't exist.

The NCAA is trying to claim the record for consecutive wins by a womens D1 basketball team is 89 while completely ignoring all records of the same sport made or set before 1982. Well, I'm mad as hell and I'm just not going to take this anymore.

Womens basketball is my life.

Camron Rust Thu Dec 23, 2010 04:54pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 709789)
My argument is one from logic and is really answering the basic question: What NCAA basketball team has the most consecutive wins? There can only be one with "the most". That would be UConn without adding any additional qualifiers. Wayland Baptist was not NCAA. They were AAU. Whether the UConn record should be accorded the same acclaim as the men is a secondary question that can encompass all the other minutia.

If you're going to eliminate the men/women qualifier from the question, why not eliminate the NCAA qualifier too? Or even the basketball qualifier?

You could simply say, "What team has the most wins?" (any sport, any organization, any gender).

BillyMac Thu Dec 23, 2010 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 709458)
Wimmens basketball is my life.

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Terrance "TJ" Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:21am

Nfc
 
I was going to comment, state my position and other such information and opinion. But I can't deal with the under lying subtle and/or b;atant sexiam in this post. So I'll leave you all to this discussion.

JRutledge Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:30am

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709932)
I was going to comment, state my position and other such information and opinion. But I can't deal with the under lying subtle and/or b;atant sexiam in this post. So I'll leave you all to this discussion.

Are you saying it is sexist not to enjoy, like or have any interest in woman's basketball?

Peace

Terrance "TJ" Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:50am

Not at all. And I will freely talk about the physical differences between the two physiques of men and women athletes and their respective sports. I was referring to the spellings and slight under ahnded jokes. Which you are all free to do, I'm just deciding to with hold my own opinion on this matter.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 24, 2010 06:49am

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709934)
I was referring to the <font color = red>spellings</font> and slight under <font color = red>ahnded</font> jokes. Which you are all free to do, I'm just deciding to with hold my own opinion on this matter.

Oooooooooo........K. :D

Btw most of my jokes about wimmen are heavy-handed, not slight. They OK with you? Or is that b;atant sexiam also?

Bad Zebra Fri Dec 24, 2010 09:36am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 709944)
... They OK with you? Or is that b;atant sexiam also?...

As someone who has witnessed the horror of b;atant sexiam, I can tell you it is neither b;atant, nor sexiam.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:25am

Subtle ??? On The Forum ???
 
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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709934)
I was referring to the spellings and slight under handed jokes.

Let's break out the blue font, or use the Roll Eyes Smilie.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:33am

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709934)
I will freely talk about the physical differences between the two physiques of men and women.

OK. Now you have my attention. Go on ...

(I know. I'm being juvenile. But I've got today off from work, and I'm going to enjoy it. You'll only have to deal with me for a few more hours. My kids, and their spouses/future spouses, will be coming over soon, we'll go to early mass tonight, go out for some Chinese food, and take in a movie, probably True Grit. Except for the going to mass part, my Jewish friends sometimes think I'm Jewish)

Adam Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709932)
I was going to comment, state my position and other such information and opinion. But I can't deal with the under lying subtle and/or b;atant sexiam in this post. So I'll leave you all to this discussion.

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Originally Posted by Terrance "TJ" (Post 709934)
Not at all. And I will freely talk about the physical differences between the two physiques of men and women athletes and their respective sports. I was referring to the spellings and slight under ahnded jokes. Which you are all free to do, I'm just deciding to with hold my own opinion on this matter.

This is perhaps the most passive aggressive thing I've seen on this board.

You obviously want to share and you want attention, so share away. If you're going to accuse us of sexism for this discussion, please do it and move on. Usually such an accusation would be accompanied by a quote of an actual post.

If you're referring to JR's spelling "errors," I'm sure you recognize that he's not the one who came up with that particular mispelling.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709966)
OK. Now you have my attention. Go on ...

(I know. I'm being juvenile. But I've got today off from work, and I'm going to enjoy it. You'll only have to deal with me for a few more hours. My kids, and their spouses/future spouses, will be coming over soon, we'll go to early mass tonight, go out for some Chinese food, and take in a movie, probably True Grit. Except for the going to mass part, my Jewish friends sometimes think I'm Jewish)

Watch out for smiling ducks.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 24, 2010 01:09pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 709984)
If you're going to accuse us of sexism for this discussion, please do it and move on. Usually such an accusation would be accompanied by a quote of an actual post.

If you're referring to JR's spelling "errors," I'm sure you recognize that he's not the one who came up with that particular mispelling.

I certainly hope that everyone notes what Wikipedia said about us forward-thinking, caring and tolerant individuals who use the term "wimmen". It states that: "Writers who use the alternate spellings see them as as an expression of female independance and a repudiation of traditions that defines females by a reference to a male."

I also certainly hope that any wimmen who may have made the past mistake of taking me to task for supposedly exhibiting anti-wimmen behavior while I was actually championing their cause immediately (if not sooner) send me a written apology of no fewer than 500 words. And maybe a pair of their used panties (I may want to coach the NY Jets someday).

All of you wimmen that thought I was just your average ol' male sexist douchebag (whilst still having shapely buttocks though) oughta be ashamed of yourselves! I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.

Wimmens Lib is my life!

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 24, 2010 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 709995)
I certainly hope that everyone notes what Wikipedia said about us forward-thinking, caring and tolerant individuals who use the term "wimmen". It states that: "Writers who use the alternate spellings see them as as an expression of female independance and a repudiation of traditions that defines females by a reference to a male."

I also certainly hope that any wimmen who may have made the past mistake of taking me to task for supposedly exhibiting anti-wimmen behavior while I was actually championing their cause immediately (if not sooner) send me a written apology of no fewer than 500 words. And maybe a pair of their used panties (I may want to coach the NY Jets someday).

All of you wimmen that thought I was just your average ol' male sexist douchebag (whilst still having shapely buttocks though) oughta be ashamed of yourselves! I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.

Wimmens Lib is my life!

Are you a wikipedia editor? Just sayin'.;)

Welpe Fri Dec 24, 2010 01:27pm

An urgent appeal from JR, Wikipedia editor and women's lib champion.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 709995)
A pair of their used panties, I may want to coach the NY Jets someday.

In that case you should have asked for a pair of used stockings.

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Judtech Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 709465)
BYU-Hawaii is an affiliate campus of BYU (or BYU-Provo), there's also BYU-Idaho (used to be Ricks College). Each campus has it's own admissions & administrative departments as well as athletics programs.

There's also BYU-Salt Lake, which is a branch campus of BYU-Provo. There's also BYU-Nauvoo & BYU-Jerusalem (neither has athletics, mainly theological studies) which are travel study programs (1-2 semesters).

BYU-Idaho has only intramural athletics, however when still as Ricks College they had one of the best JC Football programs in the nation, as well as being the largest JC in the US. As Ricks became BYU-Idaho, the athletics program changed to intramural by result of the LDS Church First Presidency in order to not create a conflict with BYU-Provo Athletics with the 2 being 5 hours apart.

You forgot BYU - Near East on Mt Scopus. I know that their 7 game men's basketball streak was broken back in 93!

bob jenkins Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:39pm

I think this thread has pretty much ended.

Congrats to UConn on seting whatever record(s) any individual chooses to recognize.


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