Well, I haven't seen that before...
 

I'm only about 20 games into my season and I've had quite a few oddball things in my games already:

• airhorn from the crowd during FTA late in a close JV-B game
• I toss, jumper catches the ball and my partner freezes
• little girl running onto the court at the opposite end just as we have a steal and a fastbreak
• I'm lead, ball near sideline on my line near midcourt, and my partner calls OOB, incorrectly!
• name missing from a scorebook, caught by counting the players in warmups and asking the coach to figure out the missing name and add it
• an opinionated 6th grade girls' travel league coach scream at me to bring in her sub after a made basket, and when I let play continue she convinced the kid running the clock to hit the horn
• a CYO coach either eject himself or get fired mid-game

As for the airhorn, the FT went in which was good because I wasn't sure at the moment what I would do if the horn caused him to miss. Biggest JV-B game of the year I had so far at the biggest school in my area, and since it was close and long the gym was nearly packed. It was the first of two, with the home down by one point and about 30 seconds left, just as the shooter released it. After the make, I stopped my partner and went to the game manager, who pointed at a security guard already headed up into the stands to get the kid, so we played on. Of course, with no horn on the second shot, the guy missed and we ended up in OT. And the varsity officials always love it when the JV game goes OT!

I was new lead on the play with the little girl on the court, 6th grade boys' CYO. I was sprinting back with my head turned at the guy who stole the ball and I didn't see her. Luckily my partner did and got a quick loud toot out to stop the ten-boy stampede headed at the three-year-old!

The missing name isn't that odd I suppose, but I've never had it before. It was the first time that counting the players actually mattered. I also like to go to the table at -11:30 so I feel like I'm following the letter of the rule in these situations, getting it resolved before the ten-minute-mark.

Oh and the CYO coach, I pinned him early in the second quarter (my only T so far this year), and a couple minutes later my partner got the assistant coach. He told the table that the HC now had two total Ts, one more and he was out. We looked up a minute or two later and the HC was not on the bench and nowhere in the gym that I saw. Didn't see him again. There were two other people now coaching the team, and neither of them ever said a word to us. We theorized that either he thought he was ejected, or the principal or somebody told him to leave!

Oh, and I had my first varsity game last Saturday! It went very smoothly. And I had five fans there--my wife, three friends, and a ref/mentor friend.

Congrats! Nice to have your own cheering section. :D

I've had the little kid run on the court incident before. Thankfully I noticed her before running her over and her mom scooped her up a second later.

I guess my question at this point is what would be the correct thing to do? Another FT for a disconcertion? Play on while the offender is dealt with? I don't have my books with me, but I don't remember reading about this situation. I may have just missed it.

PennCoach, Thanks for the update, last week Boys V we had a three year old enter the court as well! (no problem, just held up the throwin for a couple of seconds)I have never seen both coaches "leave" or be ejected. A coach a while ago told me that he got ejected years ago for two direct technicals with no assistant and the principal took over the team. Is this legal?

That depends on your state rules for coaching qualifications. Assuming it was high school, that is. Personally, I wouldn't know nor follow up; that's up to the school/team. As long as there's an adult on the bench, we're playing on. Check local listings, though.

I think we all see things we haven't seen before. Some are things that are fun to talk about. Most are things we will never see again. A lot of them seem to happen in JV games. Saw one kid put a FT over the backboard on the fly. And on the ensuing trip down the floor for the other team a kid zipped a pass under pressure that hit that same kid in the head and deflected to a teammate who went in for a layup. Also had a kid fire a pass parallel to the floor into the post from outside the arc that was deflected by a defender inside the arc and it went into the hoop for two points.

Attn: Grunewar!!!!
Did somebody say SNAKES????

I had a streaker last year, middle of the second quarter. A senior boy from the home school. Ran right in front of me, around the court, and off the other corner. Might as well have called halftime at the point, cause it took that long for the players to get back into the game again. Personally, I was trying not to laugh (too much).

Ever notice streakers are always guys? Girls are too smart for that kind of thing. :D

Whenever a little kid runs out onto the court, I tell his parents that next time, make sure he checks in to the table first and waits for us to call him in. It usually gets a laugh. :)

You were being studiously ignored, weren't you......:D

Can't call disconcertion. That only applies to "opponents" on the other team(9-1-3c), not spectators. See case book play 1.18(c). Warn 'em first and then you may give a team "T" out if it happens again, but you'd better be sure that it actually is a supporter of the team you're giving the "T" to.

I just figured there were a lot of folks digging into their casebooks for this one.:D I guess in concept it wouldn't be any different than the fans at the game I watched last Tuesday. One of them barked like a dog every time a player on the opposing team took a FT. I don't think it bothered the players, but it sure got on my nerves!

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I like that!

Me three.....
 

Girls JV Game, I'm T.

A1 passes to A2, B1 tips the ball into the backcourt. A1, A2, B1, and B2 go charging after it (these were not small girls).

Out of the corner of my eye I see Jr., must be 18 months old running onto the court after the ball. Me..... :eek: TWEET! TWEET!

Mom came onto the court, never knowing where Jr was before that moment I suppose. :rolleyes:

Why didn't you give him a DOG warning? :D

Forgot one...

Saw a 6th-grade boys' travel team employ the Hack-A-Shaq defense. Big guy for the visitors was scoring every time he caught the ball on the low block, but had missed a couple FTs earlier. With two minutes left in a tie game, the home team started fouling him every time he touched the ball. He went 0-for-6 but home kept missing. Then with 20 seconds left they fouled a different guy (I think one of the kids misunderstood the strategy) and that guy made both, and the visitors hung on for a 28-26 win!

PennCoach:

How did you handle this situation? I am thinking at least a TF on the HC, I hope.

MTD, Sr.

I had an IH last night as the VC yells "sub" as official was handing ball to player to inbound after a timeout, during boys' C :mad: (Yes I chastized myself for the IH & tried letting the officials know it was an IH, however they let the sub in)

During Boys' V, one of the Boys' coaches' sons was dribbling a ball on the sideline & it got away from him & rolled onto the court during a fastbreak. I yelled to lead about the ball (I was crowd control at the time) & play was stopped before the ball got halfway across the court.

If they stopped the game on your horn, then they didn't have any choice but to let the sub come in. Because it's a dead ball it now become a legal substitution opportunity.

Unless the sub was still on his way to the table.

I realized after sounding the horn, that it should not of sounded.

I'm just mad at myself for sounding the horn, & also mad at the coach for yelling "sub", as the ball was being put into play.

Yes they followed dead ball procedure as soon as the IH happened.

I did explain to the officials that due to the VC yelling "sub" as the ball was being put into to play was the reason behind the IH. They did remind the coach when subs are allowed in. All I got from them was a thank you for the explanation of why the IH happened.

The official was in the motion of handing the ball to the player.

The sub wasn't at the table, he was still on the team bench & the coach, suddenly, decided that the player needed to get in.

JR's point, though, was if the sub is at the table after the official stops the hand-off to the thrower, he needs to let the sub in.

Not in this case. If the sub had not reported before the warning horn, he may not enter the game until the clock has run.

I looked over at the bench after buzzing & saw the player running off the bench to the table.

As I said in an earlier post, the VC suddenly decided that with the dead ball that he needed that player in right then.

The horn should have never sounded, hence why I'm mad at myself for allowing this all to happen as the player wasn't even at the table when the horn sounded.

good catch.

Give yourself 2 long jolts with the taser and no XBOX for two weeks. Next time will be worse!:p

I'm already mad at myself & kicking myself for it.

No tasering considering don't want pacemaker damaged.

In what way could it be worse?

At least I'm realizing the mistake.

Through Week 3
 

Ok-I've just finished week 3:

*Technical Fouls awarded in games I've worked:3 (Two on Saturday in a Varsity Girls Tournament)

*Freshman Girls Tournament (Our school puts its JV team in this tourney)-Second game of the morning was a tightly contested one in a gym with multiple courts.As you all can imagine multiple horns and whistles from other courts with the sounds of parents cheering probably make it very hard for coaches to get their timeouts acknowledged.Host school's provided table crew was a bunch of high school kids-the clock operator kept hitting the horn during a live ball to get the timeouts granted. He eventually stopped after our coaches said something to the officials about it.Never seen it before-odds can't be very high I'll see it again.:confused::confused::confused:

You mean that's one of the few times where multiple courts are playing at one time side-by-side for you?

It's SOP up here for State to have a venue with 2 courts running simultaneously.

That's how I learned to do Varsity Timer/Scoreboard at Regionals was in a venue running 2 courts side-by-side.

a- Was this a timeout situation?

b- Shouldn't that read "may not enter the game until the ball becomes live."

No. The requirement is that the clock runs. The ball can be live without the clock having run.

True, but if you have free throws following the timeout (but before the clock runs), you'd let the player in.

Or, if another timeout was called and the player reported before the warning horn of that timeout, you'd let the player in.

The requirement for the clock to run only applies to a player who has been substituted for (sorry for the dangling preposition there).

a - yes, per the OP

b - it really doesn't even have to go live. "until the next opportunity for a substitute."

chseagle-yeah this was the only gym I've ever been in where it exists.Other schools around here have a multiple gym system!