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johnsonboys03 Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:28am

Violation?
 
Interesting situation happened last night. I was at a Varsity game and an official made a violation call that I've never seen before! A24 runs down the baseline but runs about 2 feet out of bounds... Lead official blows the whistle and waives his hand along the baseline and says "you cant do that 24" then points to the opposite end of the court.

I was kind of set back by this one!

zm1283 Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:33am

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason. Used to be a technical, now it's a violation.

Edit: I guess it is a technical still if it is to show "resentment or disgust".

johnsonboys03 Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:37am

my understanding of the rule is that if you run out of bounds to get clear from your defender it is a technical foul. I believe that was a rule that was implemented just a few years ago.

I haven't seen anywhere that it is a violation

zm1283 Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03 (Post 708001)
my understanding of the rule is that if you run out of bounds to get clear from your defender it is a technical foul. I believe that was a rule that was implemented just a few years ago.

I haven't seen anywhere that it is a violation

It used to be a technical foul, but it is now a violation. Check Rule 9 for violations, it is in there. I don't have the exact reference since my books are in the car in my bag.

If you were just going to tell me in your first response that it's a technical foul, why ask in the first place?

TimTaylor Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:56am

rule 9-3-3.... A player shall not leave the floor for an unauthorized reason.

PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is
awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds
spot nearest the violation.

BillyMac Fri Dec 17, 2010 07:16am

Breakdown Lane Ticket ...
 
Had it once. Kid ran around a screen and almost knocked me over as the lead. Have warned a few times, but only had it called once.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 17, 2010 07:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03 (Post 708001)
my understanding of the rule is that if you run out of bounds to get clear from your defender it is a technical foul. I believe that was a rule that was implemented just a few years ago.

I haven't seen anywhere that it is a violation

Are you an official? It was changed a few years ago. Gotta keep up with those rule changes.

JugglingReferee Fri Dec 17, 2010 07:50am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708024)
Had it once. Kid ran around a screen and almost knocked me over as the lead. Have warned a few times, but only had it called once.

I've had it once as well, back when it was a T. Kid runs OB for 10', defender stays IB. OB kid uses a screen to set up a trey, and all in a tournament championship game.

Easiest call all night.

I have not ever had to call the violation, but I do make a note to remind a player if in his backdoor cuts, he has a habit of a foot touching the line.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 17, 2010 08:22am

I make this call 5 or 6 times a season. I made it once when it was still a T.

APG Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:39am

Had it once in a game. Player would run out of bounds between the thrower and defender during throw-ins. Didn't even make sense. :confused:

jdw3018 Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 708089)
Had it once in a game. Player would run out of bounds between the thrower and defender during throw-ins. Didn't even make sense. :confused:

That, of course, is a throw-in voilation. :D

I've only called it once (players tend to stay on the court where I play). Had a player after a throw in run from one corner to the other and spend about 20 feet of it out of bounds to avoid traffic in the lane.

APG Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:47am

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 708090)
That, of course, is a throw-in voilation. :D

I've only called it once (players tend to stay on the court where I play). Had a player after a throw in run from one corner to the other and spend about 20 feet of it out of bounds to avoid traffic in the lane.

Haha yeah, he violated twice at the same time. :p

Welpe Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:53am

I've yet to make this call but it is still early in my career.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 17, 2010 01:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 708094)
I've yet to make this call but it is still early in my career.

It will confound the fans and keep them from yelling '3 seconds' for a couple trips up and down the court.

Indianaref Fri Dec 17, 2010 01:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708136)
It will confound the fans and keep them from yelling '3 seconds' for a couple trips up and down the court.

The fans are experts at the 3 second rule.:)


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