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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 05:48pm
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In this situation, you should SUSPEND the game and let the powers that be decide on a forfeit. A suspension is 100% reasonable -- for many reasons -- but a forfeit can be second guessed. I'm not saying you run away from tough situations, but when there's an easy, reasonable solution that accomplishes the same thing, do it.
I'd be more inclined to go this route if I or my partner(s) decided not to continue with the game.
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A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 06:20pm
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Or he could go play for Tim Floyd.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 06:25pm
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Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 07:11pm
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A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.
I might go for a ban at the high school level. A ban at the college and professional level (no matter how small those chances may be) is both unrealistic and excessive punishment.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 08:27pm
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Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.
The last I saw he was kicked off the team, is facing expulsion from school, and is going to be meeting a judge soon.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 12:09am
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I'm probably not going to take a swing at the kid. But I'm also not going to let him body slam me to the floor either.

As for how many technicals to call, I couldn't care less because I'm forfeiting the game.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 04:42am
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Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.
The video description says that he's off the team, banned from any other extra-cirricular activties and is suspended until Jan. 10th. At the time the video was posted the official had declined to press any charges, but the state might if they wanted to I'm guessing.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 04:52am
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I do not know what I would do. I would not be slammed to the floor without doing something. And I would be pressing charges that is the best weapon.

Now I understand the game is forfeited by state rule (not sure but that was suggested) anytime there is an assault like this.

I doubt the game would continue without a rule at this point.

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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:10am
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I personally would be bookin it. If that kid picked up _that_ ref, I'd be nothing to him. I doubt I would respond fast enough to do anything physically but I'd sure be lettin him have an earful, albiet a polite eaful, that I do know I wouldn't be able to control.
I'd forfiet as well. (Especially if this was a rivalry game. But the looks of the video description it was just the kid going off, not a heated thing between the teams/schools.) I doubt I'd be able to be able to regain my professional composure needed to resume officiating.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 07:11am
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The officials did forfeit the game, and were wise to do so imo. The report said that the player has already been suspended for the rest of the season, so his school was quick to act. In another report that I read, the high school governing body was said to be in the process of acting also. I would also doubt very much that criminal charges won't be pressed. Sad situation.

The player's coach certainly seems to be as disturbed about it as everybody else is. I have no idea what the coach is actually like...not knowing the man..but it certainly sounds like there should be absolutely no blame attached to him.

From reports that I've gleaned off the net, the general consensus was that the game was well-officiated up to that point and there's no finger-pointing being made at the officials (which in itself is as unusual as hell).

A tough situation well handled by the guys imo.
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suspended until jan. 10th.
2012 ???
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2012 ???
I'm assuming that was "suspended from school." Although Jan 10 means nothing. Here, my kids are off as of Monday for Christmas break, and don't return until the 6th of January. OTOH, that gives them time to meet and decide whether or not to expel, I'm sure.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 08:33am
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Notice at the end of that clip that the head coach and his assistant walked their player right out of the gym? Quick thinking and a very wise move under the circumstances imo. T'hell with having him sit on the bench under those circumstances.

I'm waiting for Nevada to bring up the important part that has been missed so far by everyone else. #3 white had his jersey untucked
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Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.
Fox News had a story on it this morning.

I used to work at a psychiatric institute. I was assaulted by a patient once. We had special training for such situations ( called non aggressive restraint technique ) Amazing how that training kicks in. he hit me 3 times before I could get control of him, but once I did, he couldn't do anything ( Half Nelson restraint ).

Now, point to that story here is, some of us have training, if we defended ourselves without hurting the player, what happens to us? Basic rule is we don't touch players or coaches. But defending yourself is a different story, you can't be a punching bag.

The best thing again, is it was on film. I rarely do a game that is not filmed.

Also, did this happen in the 1st quarter or the 4th? That may have some thing to do with deciding if the game was going to continue.

The size, age and experience of the official might have something to do with continuing the game. I wouldn't be flustered by the experience, but then again, at 6'2", 230 pounds there are not a lot of players who are going to put me to the floor.
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