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Clark Kent Mon Dec 13, 2010 01:36pm

H.S. 3 person Mechanics
 
I had a discussion with a friend the other night and went to look in my mechanics book but couldn't find the book, so I thought I'd throw the question out there in hopes of someone being able to reference the mechanics or at the very least offer opinions.

I know college men's we don't bounce the ball across the key but rather go over to the player and force C to go to L. In the women's game it is a mechanic to not force a rotation but rather to bounce the ball across the key. What about H.S.?

Adam Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:04pm

In high school, rotate. Don't bounce across the key.

Rich Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 707225)
In high school, rotate. Don't bounce across the key.

Yup. We don't toss across in NFHS mechanics.

I worked an NCAAM game on Saturday afternoon and I *loved* going opposite, BTW. Hadn't done it since we started going tableside in HS games. While I have no problem talking to a coach and answering questions, I feel the talking and "communicating" has gone too far in the opposite direction. Sometimes a foul is just a foul and there doesn't have to be a comment or a question.

Adam Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 707226)
Yup. We don't toss across in NFHS mechanics.

I worked an NCAAM game on Saturday afternoon and I *loved* going opposite, BTW. Hadn't done it since we started going tableside in HS games. While I have no problem talking to a coach and answering questions, I feel the talking and "communicating" has gone too far in the opposite direction. Sometimes a foul is just a foul and there doesn't have to be a comment or a question.

We've already made that "correction" here. Must have been an IAABO change.

Clark Kent Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:34pm

Thanks fellas.

Do either of you have a reference where it says that?

Adam Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:37pm

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 707230)
Thanks fellas.

Do either of you have a reference where it says that?

Only every eval I've ever had. :D
I don't know that you'll find one, what you'll find is an absence of a reference to any exceptions to the mechanics that would allow for that.

Clark Kent Mon Dec 13, 2010 02:40pm

So what do I tell the guy that when I tell him it doesn't allow for it in the book and him saying "It doesn't NOT allow for it either"?

Besides that he isn't suppose to use a double negative in a proper sentence?

Adam Mon Dec 13, 2010 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 707232)
So what do I tell the guy that when I tell him it doesn't allow for it in the book and him saying "It doesn't NOT allow for it either"?

Besides that he isn't suppose to use a double negative in a proper sentence?

Where does the mechanic say to stand when administering a throw-in in the backcourt?

mbyron Mon Dec 13, 2010 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 707230)
Thanks fellas.

Do either of you have a reference where it says that?

Current manual, 2.2.2 General Throw-in Provisions:

C. End Line:
1. All end line throw-ins shall be made from outside the thrower; between the sideline and the thrower. (p. 21)

Ed Maeder Mon Dec 13, 2010 03:04pm

Check 3.2.2C 2&3 Pg.53

Scratch85 Mon Dec 13, 2010 03:45pm

Ed has the right reference. Since you can't find your Officials Manual, the verbage is as follows:

3.2.2(C)3 Backcourt end line throw-ins by the Trail shall be made outside the thrower.

Clark Kent Mon Dec 13, 2010 04:38pm

Perfect. Thanks guys.....you are all on my christmas mailing list again ;)

Adam Mon Dec 13, 2010 04:42pm

All I ask is that you stop sending your snow this way.

Clark Kent Mon Dec 13, 2010 04:56pm

That's not us....no snow here.....in fact I have to run mow my lawn ;)

jeffpea Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:10am

I remember the mantra: "bounce it on the sidelines, hand it on the baseline"...

DownTownTonyBrown Tue Dec 14, 2010 02:06pm

There is nothing in the Mechanics Manual about not bouncing the ball in the backcourt - including on the end line.

3.2.2.A.8 specifically says " When administering throw-ins on the frontcourt end line the ball shall be handed to the thrower.

That doesn't mean you won't get chastised for bouncing it though!

JRutledge Tue Dec 14, 2010 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by DownTownTonyBrown (Post 707445)
There is nothing in the Mechanics Manual about not bouncing the ball in the backcourt - including on the end line.

3.2.2.A.8 specifically says " When administering throw-ins on the frontcourt end line the ball shall be handed to the thrower.

That doesn't mean you won't get chastised for bouncing it though!

Just one more reason we do not use that book. ;)

Peace

Adam Tue Dec 14, 2010 03:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownTownTonyBrown (Post 707445)
There is nothing in the Mechanics Manual about not bouncing the ball in the backcourt - including on the end line.

3.2.2.A.8 specifically says " When administering throw-ins on the frontcourt end line the ball shall be handed to the thrower.

That doesn't mean you won't get chastised for bouncing it though!

Really? I've never been chastised for bouncing on the endline in the BC. But I'm not bouncing it across the lane, either.

BillyMac Tue Dec 14, 2010 04:58pm

Another Fortune In A Cookie ...
 
"Bounce when you can, hand when you must." (Confucius)

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 14, 2010 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 707497)
"Bounce when you can, hand when you must." (Confucius)

"...except on the end line in the front court." (My Supervisor)

JRutledge Tue Dec 14, 2010 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 707501)
"...except on the end line in the front court." (My Supervisor)

Or "....except on the end line, where you must hand the ball to the thrower." (My Head Clinician).

Peace

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 14, 2010 05:31pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 707505)
Or "....except on the end line, where you must hand the ball to the thrower." (My Head Clinician).

Peace

Just one more reason we prefer to use our book. ;)

JRutledge Tue Dec 14, 2010 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 707509)
Just one more reason we prefer to use our book. ;)

I guess a lot of your guys do the Timmy Higgins? :D

Peace

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 14, 2010 05:44pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 707511)
I guess a lot of your guys do the Timmy Higgins? :D

Peace

I'll have a really funny comeback for that...just as soon as I figure out what you mean. :confused: :D

sseltser Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 707514)
I'll have a really funny comeback for that...just as soon as I figure out what you mean. :confused: :D

With no pressure, stand around the FT Line extended and bounce the ball back to the endline. Drives me bananas,but apparently its allowed when your name is Tim Higgins.


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