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Refsmitty Tue Dec 07, 2010 01:56pm

1st Wack - missed 2nd!
 
2nd half - Captain spins down the lane out of control - throws up a brick - came up screeming "How Can That Not Be A Foul?" Throwing arms up and the whole deal. Felt he got pushed in the back - I saw no push...

Wack! As I go to report - he sits on the end of the bench with arms on head... thought later that I should have got him again by rule for unsporting.

After the game - I find out that the coach has instructed them due to his rule that a T means sitting rest of game... instructed them to sit on the bench. Coach may learn the hard way down the road eh?

Welpe Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:03pm

HTBT of course but it sounds like you did just fine.

Camron Rust Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:06pm

Don't go looking for trouble here....the coach is doing you a favor. Let him sit and move on.

TimTaylor Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:15pm

Yeah, I had high hopes for a nice, clean, "T" free season.....lasted until my 2nd game. A1 is OOB for throw in, B1 swings an arm across the line and knocks ball out of A1's hands. FFWD three games - I call a PC foul on a player for a forearm shiver on the defender that would have made any football coach proud.......she turns and heaves the ball at the wall in disgust......

Agree with Cam....I'd just remind the coach they need to follow the sub procedure.

Refsmitty Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:19pm

Good point
 
- well taken - thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 705893)
Don't go looking for trouble here....the coach is doing you a favor. Let him sit and move on.


APG Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:21pm

I wouldn't have T'd up that second act from the sound of it. Good job getting the first one.

Adam Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:34pm

I wouldn'd have Td that up either, but doesn't the POE indicate we're supposed to? Or do we get discretion on it?

mbyron Tue Dec 07, 2010 02:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 705915)
I wouldn'd have Td that up either, but doesn't the POE indicate we're supposed to? Or do we get discretion on it?

Sitting on the bench with hands on head (and mouth shut)? Not me.

Throwing up hands and stomping off court? Yep.

Which one is obvious to granny? (That part isn't explicitly in the rules...)

Adam Tue Dec 07, 2010 03:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 705921)
Sitting on the bench with hands on head (and mouth shut)? Not me.

Throwing up hands and stomping off court? Yep.

Which one is obvious to granny? (That part isn't explicitly in the rules...)

Which is how I would call it, but it seems some are being instructed to call this even when the player tucks his proverbial tail between his legs and heads to the bench prior to the sub being beckoned. The wording of the rule leads me to believe it should only be called when it's "to demonstrate frustration."

mbyron Tue Dec 07, 2010 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 705935)
Which is how I would call it, but it seems some are being instructed to call this even when the player tucks his proverbial tail between his legs and heads to the bench prior to the sub being beckoned. The wording of the rule leads me to believe it should only be called when it's "to demonstrate frustration."

Some states have officious supervisors. :shrug:

I think your interp is clearly supported by the case play.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 07, 2010 05:25pm

What Camron said.....

Don't be a plumber.


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