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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 06:55am
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"dead, dead, dead" is NOT taunting in my book...."na, na, na, na, na, naaahhhh - you can't dribble anymore; you can't dribble anymore! hey everybody look - it's Mr. 'I can't dribble anymore'..." now THAT is taunting.

IF a partner of mine called a T for "taunting" or "unsportsmanlike behavior" in this situation, you can be sure that I will be conducting some serious taunting of said official in the locker room after the game...
It is possible to be taunting in this situation. It depends on how the word(s) is used towards another opponent.

A1 repeatedly yells "ball, ball, ball” at B1 who does not have the ball. I can understand A1 being warned and if the unsporting act continues, receiving a player technical foul.

What is the purpose of yelling at the opponent? Is this in the spirit of the game? Are the words used inappropriately?

This action by team A could cause retaliation by players on team B, leading to possible flagrant acts and fights.

NFHS Rule 10-2-6c

It is rare but I have seen similar actions by teams or a player, to use gestures or words to intimidate an opponent.

Verbal and physical tactics are very difficult to detect. E.g., A1 slightly tugs at B1’s jersey during a shot attempt and B1 misses the shot. Is this a foul or a no call or hold your whistle if shot goes in?

The players are getting real good at staying under the radar preventing from being seen or showing that you as a ref should not make a “ticky tack” call on players using 2 fingers slightly tugging an opponents jersey.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 07:26am
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It is possible to be taunting in this situation. It depends on how the word(s) is used towards another opponent.

A1 repeatedly yells "ball, ball, ball” at B1 who does not have the ball. I can understand A1 being warned and if the unsporting act continues, receiving a player technical foul.

What is the purpose of yelling at the opponent? Is this in the spirit of the game? Are the words used inappropriately?

This action by team A could cause retaliation by players on team B, leading to possible flagrant acts and fights.

NFHS Rule 10-2-6c

It is rare but I have seen similar actions by teams or a player, to use gestures or words to intimidate an opponent.

Verbal and physical tactics are very difficult to detect. E.g., A1 slightly tugs at B1’s jersey during a shot attempt and B1 misses the shot. Is this a foul or a no call or hold your whistle if shot goes in?

The players are getting real good at staying under the radar preventing from being seen or showing that you as a ref should not make a “ticky tack” call on players using 2 fingers slightly tugging an opponents jersey.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 09:21am
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If you are really paying attention while you officiate you would notice the "dead, dead, dead" yell means that the ball-handler no longer can dribble the ball.
I say this to myself so I can remember that the dribble has been used up. I have terrible memory sometimes.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 09:56am
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I say this to myself so I can remember that the dribble has been used up. I have terrible memory sometimes.
Just don't say it too loudly.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 11:06am
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I was always under the impression that here in America the clapping of hands was meant to show appreciation and support for actions. NO ONE seems to stop and consider that maybe the defender is just applauding the effort of the offensive player and is joyful that said effort has resulted in a positive outcome? I mean how hard is that to understand?? This isn't Europe or S. America where a whistle is a BAD thing but a good thing here. Geez people!
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 11:16am
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. THIS IS NOT GOLF! Noise and distractions are part of the game. If players can't handle it, they might consider switching sports.

Yelling in an "unsporting" manner would, IMO, be VERY unusual.

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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 12:10pm
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Just don't say it too loudly.
OK I don't say it, I think it loudly in my brain.
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