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Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 30, 2010 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 704006)
You'd almost think it was created by a rules committee... ;)

Formalizing English usage is, IMHO, nothing like the formal rulesmaking process. It's more like an informal Saturday pick up game at the park, where that one kid who never got picked tries to explain the rules, as best he can make them out, to the bystanders. This is how Billy Packer got started. In fact, it's astonishing how many sports commentators have English degrees. ;)

26 Year Gap Tue Nov 30, 2010 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 704008)
Formalizing English usage is, IMHO, nothing like the formal rulesmaking process. It's more like an informal Saturday pick up game at the park, where that one kid who never got picked tries to explain the rules, as best he can make them out, to the bystanders. This is how Billy Packer got started. In fact, it's astonishing how many sports commentators have English degrees. ;)

With Dizzy Dean being the first of the lot.

Adam Tue Nov 30, 2010 06:43pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 703987)
Sorry, -2 for you: 'verbiage' is misspelled, and a line can't have a side because it's one-dimensional. Only a plane can have a side. :p

-1, I'll accept the mark for "verbiage."
The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court. Two inches is standard.

mbyron Tue Nov 30, 2010 08:41pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 704067)
-1, I'll accept the mark for "verbiage."
The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court. Two inches is standard.

True of the painted line; 4-9-2 refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

BillyMac Tue Nov 30, 2010 08:44pm

Anybody Need The Pythagorean Theorem ???
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 704067)
The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court.

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 704077)
Refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

When did this change into the "Geometry Forum"?

Adam Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by drofficial (Post 703915)
Rule 9-2-10 reads: "The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw in pass."

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 704077)
True of the painted line; 4-9-2 refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

The throw-in boundary line is the painted line. The restricted plane is the inbounds side of that painted boundary-line.

Adam Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:13pm

A Squared plus B squared equals C squared
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 704078)
When did this change into the "Geometry Forum"?

Don't make me say it, Billy.

kopan99 Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:28pm

The rule says "Plane" not "Line", so the width of the line is irrelevant. The "Inbounds" plane of the line and "out of bounds" plane of the line are the exact same plane, where both meet.

Adam Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by kopan99 (Post 704118)
The rule says "Plane" not "Line", so the width of the line is irrelevant. The "Inbounds" plane of the line and "out of bounds" plane of the line are the exact same plane, where both meet.

The rule says both. :rolleyes:

kopan99 Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:46pm

Thats rignt, but "Boundary-Line" is refering to which plane.

johnsonboys03 Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:02am

Wow my head is spinning!!! I never really even thought about all this. If a thow in is being taken place and the thrower steps on the line I never called a violation. But since he stepped across the Out of Bounds line but not over the In bounds line.......where is he?

Adam Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:10am

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Originally Posted by johnsonboys03 (Post 704132)
Wow my head is spinning!!! I never really even thought about all this. If a thow in is being taken place and the thrower steps on the line I never called a violation. But since he stepped across the Out of Bounds line but not over the In bounds line.......where is he?

He stepped "on" the OOB line, not across it. He's still OOB.

johnsonboys03 Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:12am

Ok so the moral of the story is that the inbound side of the line no matter the width is what matters...

Adam Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:13am

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Originally Posted by kopan99 (Post 704127)
Thats rignt, but "Boundary-Line" is refering to which plane.

It refers to the painted line, recommended to be 2 inches but sometimes larger. Sometimes it's nonexistent, in which case the plane on the out of bounds side of the boundary line is co-located with the plane on the inbounds side of the boundary line.

johnsonboys03 Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:17am

Ok I understand... thanks


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