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Mark Padgett Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:48pm

OT - I was right, as usual
 
In a previous thread, I mentioned how a Cal player faked an injury in the Oregon-Cal football game in order to slow down the Duck offense. I took a lot of flak here, mostly claiming I was just quoting off some fanboy site (which I never even look at). Well, the story just came out and the Cal line coach did get his player to fake an injury and now that coach has been suspended.

Oregon football: Cal suspends defensive line coach for instructing a player to fake injury | OregonLive.com

BktBallRef Sun Nov 28, 2010 02:05pm

I read a similiar story the week you posted, which made me wonder why you got so much flak. It seemed to be common knowledge that the Cal player faked the injury, not that the officiating crew could do anything about it.

Jurassic Referee Sun Nov 28, 2010 02:08pm

And now you're just one happy l'il fanboy, aren't you?

Note for the records, folks, that the situation discussed had nothing at all to do with the officiating in that game. The officials did exactly what they were supposed to...and have to.... do. Stop play for an injured player. Whether the player was faking an injury or not is never a decision to be made by the officials. Faking injuries is a league matter.

Jurassic Referee Sun Nov 28, 2010 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 703654)
I read a similiar story the week you posted, which made me wonder why you got so much flak. It seemed to be common knowledge that the Cal player faked the injury, not that the officiating crew could do anything about it.

I don't know whether it was a matter of flak or just a case of most respondants pointing out that the actual officiating of the game had nothing to do with the faking of injury problem. They're 2 very separate topics.

BktBallRef Sun Nov 28, 2010 02:28pm

I never saw anything where Mark indicated that the officiating crew did anything wrong. The thread was on dishonesty. He brought up the Cal player faking an injury and that the Pac-10 had stated that NCAA rules did not address it. That was pretty much it. Sure seemed like dishonesty on the part of the Cal player and coach to me. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...ages/whaat.gif

Mark Padgett Sun Nov 28, 2010 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 703658)
I never saw anything where Mark indicated that the officiating crew did anything wrong. The thread was on dishonesty. He brought up the Cal player faking an injury and that the Pac-10 had stated that NCAA rules did not address it. That was pretty much it. Sure seemed like dishonesty on the part of the Cal player and coach to me. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...ages/whaat.gif

That's exactly right. I didn't imply or state the officials did anything wrong. My issue was with the Cal player faking the injury.

Adam Sun Nov 28, 2010 09:07pm

All I said was the videos didn't prove anything. I stand by that.

Nevadaref Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:04pm

Oregon football: Fake injuries were part of Cal's game plan, source says | OregonLive.com

Raymond Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:13pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 703695)
All I said was the videos didn't prove anything. I stand by that.

The video I saw today on SportsCenter was pretty damning. Pretty naive' to think it wasn't.

just another ref Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:54pm

In the LSU-Arkansas game, an Arkansas player was injured and slow to get up while Arkansas was trying to run the clock out near the end. Officials, correctly I understand, killed the clock at the 1:40 mark I think, and didn't start it again until the next snap. Arkansas coach kinda came unglued and launched a stream of profanity into the ear of any nearby official. What would it take for a D1 head coach to draw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag?

BktBallRef Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:46pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 703725)
What would it take for a D1 head coach to draw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag?

I don't think it's possible.

Welpe Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:54am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 703725)
What would it take for a D1 head coach to draw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag?

Pulling a deadly weapon?

chseagle Mon Nov 29, 2010 01:32am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 703725)
What would it take for a D1 head coach to draw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag?

Doing a "Lou Pinella"??

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 29, 2010 07:01am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 703695)
All I said was the videos didn't prove anything. I stand by that.

Nothing but the usual fanboy nonsense anyway, Adam. Got nothing really to do with officials or officiating. Let 'em all whine at each other as much as they want as long as they keep away from us.

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 29, 2010 07:03am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 703729)
I don't think it's possible.

Comes down from the league....unfortunately. And all leagues seem to have the same general philosophy....head coaches are untouchable.


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