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rockyroad Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:09pm
Mich. St./Washington
 
What does it take to get a T on the Head Coach in a Men's D-1 game???

Last night it was Calipari throwing F bombs at the officials...now Izzo is going nuts. And the announcer is praising the officials for their patience and for trying to stay away from Izzo.

Oh - and now the A'sst. Coach for MSU is taking verbal shots at the official during a time-out. Wow.

So what does it take to get rung up??? I really don't get it.

Adam Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:28pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 703131)
So what does it take to get rung up??? I really don't get it.
It takes an official with stones.

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:31pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 703135)
It takes an official who has a commissioner/assignor with stones.
Fixed it for ya....

Adam Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 703138)
Fixed it for ya....
True enough.

rockyroad Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:35pm
What is this mythical creature of which you speak, JR?

zm1283 Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:42pm
I have noticed this as well this year, both in person and on TV. It seems like D1 head coaches can get away with pretty much anything they want short of physical contact.

Welpe Wed Nov 24, 2010 07:47pm
It's kind of like watching a college football game.

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:03pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 703141)
What is this mythical creature of which you speak, JR?
Well, it sureashell ain't the gorgon that you knew, Deej.....:D

Judtech Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:12pm
and to think that "Bench Decorum" was a POE a few years ago. Complete with video examples and everything

zebraman Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:15pm
The officials who got picked for these early season TV games are some of the bigger of the big dogs. What message does it send when they allow the abuse?

1) You have to allow the abuse to get to their level.

2) If the big dogs put up with it, then the little dogs should too.

Pathetic. It appears as if the coaches and refs in the Maui tournament are not only sharing a room, but also a bed. :eek:

BktBallRef Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:26pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 703150)
Well, it sureashell ain't the gorgon that you knew, Deej.....:D
As I recall, the gorgon would like to have had stones, but didn't.

rockyroad Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:46pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 703160)
As I recall, the gorgon would like to have had stones, but didn't.
Even more accurate to say that the gorgon thought it did have stones...

Anywho...it just seems to me that it is doing a huge disservice to the game of basketball. I don't believe any NBA ref would have put up with either of these tirades. So the only level allowing this crap is Men's D-1.

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 24, 2010 08:48pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 703160)
As I recall, the gorgon would like to have had stones, but didn't.
Yup, DJ's stones.....:D

rockyroad Wed Nov 24, 2010 09:03pm
Ouch!:rolleyes:

Camron Rust Thu Nov 25, 2010 07:56pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 703131)
What does it take to get a T on the Head Coach in a Men's D-1 game???

Last night it was Calipari throwing F bombs at the officials...now Izzo is going nuts. And the announcer is praising the officials for their patience and for trying to stay away from Izzo.

Oh - and now the A'sst. Coach for MSU is taking verbal shots at the official during a time-out. Wow.

So what does it take to get rung up??? I really don't get it.
Funny how you mention Izzo and Calapari and not Romar's similar foot stomping outbursts. If called as you wish (and I agree with your general point), Romar would have been DQ'd more than once in just one game. There was on incident where Romar would have made a baseball manager proud with the way he was barking in the face of TWO officials at the same time. The only thing missing was a little dirt to kick on their shoes.

Rich Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 703153)
The officials who got picked for these early season TV games are some of the bigger of the big dogs. What message does it send when they allow the abuse?

1) You have to allow the abuse to get to their level.

2) If the big dogs put up with it, then the little dogs should too.

Pathetic. It appears as if the coaches and refs in the Maui tournament are not only sharing a room, but also a bed. :eek:
It appeared Tim Higgins was looking for an oxygen mask on every whistle, so I'll cut him some slack there. :rolleyes:

Some of these old, old dogs can't even come close to keeping up and yet they're back season after season.

zebraman Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:56pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 703331)
Funny how you mention Izzo and Calapari and not Romar's similar foot stomping outbursts. If called as you wish (and I agree with your general point), Romar would have been DQ'd more than once in just one game. There was on incident where Romar would have made a baseball manager proud with the way he was barking in the face of TWO officials at the same time. The only thing missing was a little dirt to kick on their shoes.
Coach Romar is usually pretty calm. But he is quite bright. When he feels that officials are being intimidated by an opposing coach who is being a tyrant, he will sometimes bark a little too so that the officials know that there are two coaches on the sidelines.

Adam Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:00am
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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 703361)
Coach Romar is usually pretty calm. But he is quite bright. When he feels that officials are being intimidated by an opposing coach who is being a tyrant, he will sometimes bark a little too so that the officials know that there are two coaches on the sidelines.
What Camron describes seems pretty different from your assessment.

rockyroad Fri Nov 26, 2010 01:38am
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 703331)
Funny how you mention Izzo and Calapari and not Romar's similar foot stomping outbursts. If called as you wish (and I agree with your general point), Romar would have been DQ'd more than once in just one game. There was on incident where Romar would have made a baseball manager proud with the way he was barking in the face of TWO officials at the same time. The only thing missing was a little dirt to kick on their shoes.
This is true. However, Romar's outburst came after Calipari had gone on several rants - including the one where he was dropping f-bombs on the crew. That does not mean I condone Romar's actions, but maybe he thought he needed to get in their ear also??? I don't know...it just looks horrible and makes officials in general look bad.

chseagle Fri Nov 26, 2010 01:56am
The one time I saw Romar coach in person, earlier in the year in Pullman, he was pretty laid back.

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 703365)
This is true. However, Romar's outburst came after Calipari had gone on several rants - including the one where he was dropping f-bombs on the crew. That does not mean I condone Romar's actions, but maybe he thought he needed to get in their ear also??? I don't know...it just looks horrible and makes officials in general look bad.

Raymond Fri Nov 26, 2010 09:50am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 703362)
What Camron describes seems pretty different from your assessment.
Even so, if the refs are letting Izzo do it then Romar is just following suit.

Adam Fri Nov 26, 2010 09:53am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 703383)
Even so, if the refs are letting Izzo do it then Romar is just following suit.
Agreed.


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