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[AHSAA_Ref]

Last night (NFHS):

A23 fouls out. R reports the foul, and is notified of the 5th personal. B20 is at the line to shoot 1-and-1.
R notifies the player and A-HC. R goes to the table to start the 20-sec. clock, and U1 administers the free throw to A20. Free throw is made, but A has not replaced its player yet.

What do you do?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AHSAA_Ref

Last night (NFHS):

A23 fouls out. R reports the foul, and is notified of the 5th personal. B20 is at the line to shoot 1-and-1.
R notifies the player and A-HC. R goes to the table to start the 20-sec. clock, and U1 administers the free throw to A20. Free throw is made, but A has not replaced its player yet.

What do you do?

Blow your whistle, get the sub in, shoot the second free throw, talk to your partner after the game.

[AHSAA_Ref]

Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by AHSAA_Ref

Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)

Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.

To clarify, if the shot is missed, should you hold your whistle for a second or two until a team has control? That way, you wouldn't need the arrow.

[tref]

We should do what the title of this thread says.

I say we count the FT, allow the sub & continue. Its not a CE.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Blow your whistle, get the sub in, shoot the second free throw, talk to your partner after the game.

Note that the NCAA (at elast NCAAW) ruling is different -- cancel the FT, put the sub in, FT do-over.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Note that the NCAA (at elast NCAAW) ruling is different -- cancel the FT, put the sub in, FT do-over.

Let me check that out.

Is that based on the wording from A.R. 80 or is there an interp out there somewhere?

(2) Since A5 and A5’s coach were not notified of the disqualification, the result of A5’s free throws (following the free throws awarded to Team B for the technical foul on A5) shall stand.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by AHSAA_Ref

Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.

If the whistle is before a rebound use AP since POI has no team control. If whistle is late and there has been a rebound go POI, ball out to team with control.

Is this correct?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

If the whistle is before a rebound use AP since POI has no team control. If whistle is late and there has been a rebound go POI, ball out to team with control.

Is this correct?

To add an additional question to Scratch's question....

If going to POI once there's TC is the correct procedure, would/should we wait on the whistle if Team B had a fast break going off the miss?

[Jurassic Referee]

It's our screw-up and we need to fix it. And we also don't need to compound our screw-up by penalizing a team by making them play with 4 players. As soon as you're aware that we didn't allow a proper substitution, blow your whistle and get the sub on the floor. You then have rules to determine what you have to do when you resume play. Use 'em.

[jdmara]

Have a pregame...about the procedure you are going to use when a player is disqualified. This should be discussed the same way that substitutions (count players) should be discussed, everyone makes eye contact and the ball goes in play.

-Josh

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by jdmara

Have a pregame...about the procedure you are going to use when a player is disqualified. This should be discussed the same way that substitutions (count players) should be discussed, everyone makes eye contact and the ball goes in play.

-Josh

Having been burned by this exact scenario, it's ALWAYS included in my pre-game. It looks REALLY bad when the FT misses and play continues while an official is standing near the table trying to get a sub in.

[AHSAA_Ref]

Same game:

Ball OOB at baseline. T and L blow whistle. T says white, L says blue. This is L's call, but a meeting occurs and L changes the call immediately.

Note: T here is same U1 who administered the FT

[tref]

By you saying U1 Im assuming its a 3 whistle game? T blowing the OOB on endline... sounds like the U1 needs more reps!