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bballrefinks Tue Nov 09, 2010 03:15pm

referee testing ball for proper air pressure
 
#21. When the referee tests the ball for proper air pressure, the test shall be conducted on the playing court surface.

This has to be true, common sense would tell me that. The question is where can I find it in the book

26 Year Gap Tue Nov 09, 2010 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by bballrefinks (Post 700171)
#21. When the referee tests the ball for proper air pressure, the test shall be conducted on the playing court surface.

This has to be true, common sense would tell me that. The question is where can I find it in the book

Look under Rule one, below the diagram of the authenticating mark.

bballrefinks Tue Nov 09, 2010 03:26pm

Geez I'm an idiot. How could I possibly miss that? Thanks.

26 Year Gap Tue Nov 09, 2010 03:36pm

Rule 1 is the driest of the 10 and I know that I tend to skim it. There are usually a handful of questions on the test pertaining to it, though.

grunewar Tue Nov 09, 2010 06:11pm

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Originally Posted by bballrefinks (Post 700171)
#21. When the referee tests the ball for proper air pressure, the test shall be conducted on the playing court surface.

This has to be true, common sense would tell me that. The question is where can I find it in the book

And always bring a small pump and needle too....just in case!

BLydic Tue Nov 09, 2010 08:04pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 700211)
And always bring a small pump and needle too....just in case!

You're kidding right? I do carry a needle, slips easily in the Fox 40 mouthpiece.

But a small pump? :eek:

BktBallRef Tue Nov 09, 2010 08:52pm

You've never called volleyball, BL?

grunewar Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:07pm

Nope, not kidding
 
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Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 700218)
You're kidding right? I do carry a needle, slips easily in the Fox 40 mouthpiece.

But a small pump? :eek:

I've never used the pump at a V game before. But sub-v, AAU, and rec ball......yep, used it several times. Fits neatly into my bag.

Adam Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 700218)
You're kidding right? I do carry a needle, slips easily in the Fox 40 mouthpiece.

But a small pump? :eek:

I hope it doesn't slip easily out of the mouthpiece while you're using it. That could hurt.

BLydic Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:47pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 700226)
You've never called volleyball, BL?

No, basketball is it.


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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 700230)
I've never used the pump at a V game before. But sub-v, AAU, and rec ball......yep, used it several times. Fits neatly into my bag.

Cool, I could see it being an inconvenience to bring to a varsity game.

BLydic Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:49pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 700236)
I hope it doesn't slip easily out of the mouthpiece while you're using it. That could hurt.

Spare whistle, fits nice and snug.

grunewar Wed Nov 10, 2010 05:14am

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Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 700238)
Cool, I could see it being an inconvenience to bring to a varsity game.

It's no inconvenience, the pump fits right in my bag.

The inconvenience is if you can't find a good ball and no one has a needle or pump and you don't start the game on time.

Worst case scenario, it takes me a minute to jog back to the locker room get the needle or pump and make adjustments.

Rich Wed Nov 10, 2010 08:48am

I have never run into a situation where *all* the balls are under-inflated. Matter of fact, in 50 varsity games last season, the ball given me (or a partner) was under-inflated exactly zero times and overinflated about 47 times. We carry a needle in our jacket pocket and I've gotten some funny looks when taking pounds of area out of a way over-inflated ball.

If, for some reason a ball is under-inflated, I tell them I need a different ball. I don't carry a pump.

jkumpire Wed Nov 10, 2010 09:00am

A suggestion...
 
I happen to work VB and BK, and used to work FB. When you check air pressure as much as I do, it pays to spend some $$ and get a Molten Digital Air pressure gauge. It's darn expensive, but it makes the process of checking air pressure very, very easy, and it is small enough to keep in your jacket pocket.

Amazon.com: Molten Digital Air Pressure Pump and Gauge: Sports & Outdoors: Reviews, Prices & more

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:34am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 700264)
I have never run into a situation where *all* the balls are under-inflated. Matter of fact, in 50 varsity games last season, the ball given me (or a partner) was under-inflated exactly zero times and overinflated about 47 times. We carry a needle in our jacket pocket and I've gotten some funny looks when taking pounds of area out of a way over-inflated ball.

If, for some reason a ball is under-inflated, I tell them I need a different ball. I don't carry a pump.

+1

I've always carried a needle to let air out but it's not my job to blow up balls. If I can't find a good ball from the home team, I go to the visitors. They all love to over-inflate 'em. They think it gives them a quicker bounce and are easier to dribble(and they are right). Teams have been over-inflating balls...oh...forever.

Back In The Saddle Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:58am

Back in the days when I did VB, I learned a rather painful lesson about having all the right gear. I was checking balls before my first ever state match and somehow (nerves combined with my incredible strength?) snapped off a needle in the valve of one of the balls. It required several extra minutes to find a janitor and borrow a pair of pliers to remove the remainder of the needle, then to pump the ball back up. After that I began carrying a small Leatherman as part of my tool kit.

GoodwillRef Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:39pm

Junior High game last night we ask if they have a game ball and they tell us to just pick one...at the first time out the home coach says his point guard doesn't like the ball...really? Tough crap!

Adam Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 700319)
Junior High game last night we ask if they have a game ball and they tell us to just pick one...at the first time out the home coach says his point guard doesn't like the ball...really? Tough crap!

Yep, tell him next time to have his point guard pick out the game ball and give it to the refs before the game.

26 Year Gap Wed Nov 10, 2010 01:13pm

That coach sounds like a real agitator.;)

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 10, 2010 03:28pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 700312)
1) Back in the days when I did VB, I learned a rather painful lesson about having all the right gear. I was checking balls before my first ever state match and somehow <font color = red>(nerves combined with my incredible strength?)</font> snapped off a needle in the valve of one of the balls.

2)It required several extra minutes to find a janitor and borrow a pair of pliers to remove the remainder of the needle, then to pump the ball back up.

3) After that I began carrying a small Leatherman as part of my tool kit.

1) Remarkable ineptness? Sheer stoopidity? Your choice....

2) For one freaking stoopid volleyball? What, they only had one ball for state championships? Get another ball and hide the damn thing and pretend you never saw it.

3) Ah! I remembered Chuck Elias telling me that he was gonna start doing volleyball too. Now I know what his job was---"Leatherman". How did you carry him? In one of them papoose thingys like new mommies carry their babies around in?

Adam Wed Nov 10, 2010 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 700350)
3) Ah! I remembered Chuck Elias telling me that he was gonna start doing volleyball too. Now I know what his job was---"Leatherman". How did you carry him? In one of them papoose thingys like new mommies carry their babies around in?

I never really thought of Chuck as a tool. M&M maybe, but not Chuck. You know him better, though.

M&M Guy Wed Nov 10, 2010 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 700367)
I never really thought of Chuck as a tool. M&M maybe, but not Chuck. You know him better, though.

So how the he!! did I ever get involved in a volleyball discussion?

Ohhhh....

mbyron Wed Nov 10, 2010 04:47pm

Now it feels like the season. :)

Welpe Wed Nov 10, 2010 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 700378)
So how the he!! did I ever get involved in a volleyball discussion?

Ohhhh....

Same way I drag Snaqs kicking and screaming into a football thread...or grune for that matter.

Adam Wed Nov 10, 2010 05:35pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 700378)
So how the he!! did I ever get involved in a volleyball discussion?

Ohhhh....

Because Danref doesn't hang here any more.

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 700383)
Same way I drag Snaqs kicking and screaming into a football thread...or grune for that matter.

What? Where?

Back In The Saddle Wed Nov 10, 2010 07:50pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 700350)
1) Remarkable ineptness? Sheer stoopidity? Your choice....

I'll take door number 1, though both probably apply. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 700350)
2) For one freaking stoopid volleyball? What, they only had one ball for state championships? Get another ball and hide the damn thing and pretend you never saw it.

For one of the three used for a three ball rotation. I guess I could have just ditched the evidence of my remarkable ineptness. Then we'd have been down to two. Then during the match when one of the balls disappeared briefly we'd have been down to only one. Good thing the match didn't go to extra sets! (BTW, the disappearing ball turned up in a trash can sitting in a bowl with a half eaten chili cheese dog.)

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 700350)
3) Ah! I remembered Chuck Elias telling me that he was gonna start doing volleyball too. Now I know what his job was---"Leatherman". How did you carry him? In one of them papoose thingys like new mommies carry their babies around in?

No need for special hardware, he fits discreetly in my back pocket.

BillyMac Wed Nov 10, 2010 08:40pm

The Day The Music Died ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 700350)
Chuck Elias?

That reminds me. November 6, 2010 was the fourth anniversary of ChuckElias leaving the Official Forum. How did we miss it? May he rest in peace.

just another ref Wed Nov 10, 2010 08:42pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 700413)

No need for special hardware, he fits discreetly in my back pocket.

It's no longer discreet if you tell it in a public forum.

Welpe Wed Nov 10, 2010 09:17pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 700394)
What? Where?

I tried actually...you didn't take the bait, oh wise one that you are.

Thread in the football forum started by grune about the "hand grenade celebration". "Circus in a thread" was a great description for that one.

Back In The Saddle Wed Nov 10, 2010 09:50pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 700425)
That reminds me. November 6, 2010 was the fourth anniversary of ChuckElias leaving the Official Forum. How did we miss it? May he rest in peace.

You're kind of creepy. Stop stalking Chuck. Let him RIP!

26 Year Gap Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:14pm

This thread has turned squirrely.

Back In The Saddle Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:31pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 700459)
This thread has turned squirrely.

Nah, it would have to be much shorter.

Adam Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:52pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 700436)
I tried actually...you didn't take the bait, oh wise one that you are.

Thread in the football forum started by grune about the "hand grenade celebration". "Circus in a thread" was a great description for that one.

Lucky for me I missed that thread. :D


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