NFHS 2010-11 Basketball Exam Questions

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

First of all, my comment had nothing to do with your sincerity. As you state, I don't know you, so I have no idea. I was referring to what I knew was coming; which has actually been pretty mild.


Reasons why someone would want a copy posted on the board:
1. Yours.
2. To study it ahead of time.
3. To study it as a guide when their state doesn't use it.

No one ever admits to #2 when asking for the test, but providing a copy would circumvent the whole testing process for a lot of states. Posting it to the board doesn't just send it to your computer.

As JR state, whoever did it last year shouldn't have.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If you're perfectly capable of completing the test on your own, then you shouldn't need copies of the questions BEFORE you write the damn thing. Just go home and do it.

Same old, same old...every freaking year!

The accepted rule of thumb is that anyone looking for a copy of the exam before they write the test is also looking to cheat. And the person that posted the test last year was an unethical jerk. You're only cheating yourselves imo.

Jurassic what are you talking about? On the state website I have a blank answer sheet to fill in. I have a MAILED paper copy of the test and it is not with me at the moment. THE QUESTIONS DO NOT APPEAR WHEN I OPEN THE TEST ON THE WEBSITE, ONLY THE ANSWER SHEET. If I do not have a copy of the questions in front how am I supposed to know what the questions even are??? I wish the test appeared on the website so I wouldn't need to keep track of the paper copy but it does not.

In my state the test is open book. It is widely distributed. I was not aware it was a secret squirrel type of test. Are we talking about the same test? I've had a copy of it since September 15. It is mailed to every registered official in our state to be completed in open book format at any time before the deadline of November 23. It is blatantly announced as being an open book test designed to encourage research of the rules. I was not aware it was kept under lock and key in other states. I thought all NFHS states likely operated under the same system. Request withdrawn for all the trouble it seems to be causing.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by biggravy

I thought all NFHS states likely operated under the same system.

No, not even close. It varies greatly from state to state.

[biggravy]

Ahhhhh (lightbulb comes on)...

EDIT: I found this thread that I did not see when I searched earlier for my answer.

Copy of the NFHS Test (no not the answers)

On that particular day, I guess folks weren't so pissy and the following answer was provided:

Originally Posted by rsl

Since you are from Utah, and in Utah the test is open book with essentially unlimited time, your request is reasonable.

However, that is not the case in other states and usually this kind of request will get some harsh replies from this forum.

The Salt lake chapter usually makes a copy of the exam available to its members to help them study. It is not available yet, and won't be until the official testing period starts in Utah.

Send me a message when the test is available online and I'll see if I have by then.

Since ignorance is no excuse for violating the forum code of honor I sentence myself to seven hours of reading Chseagle threads.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by biggravy

Since ignorance is no excuse for violating the forum code of honor I sentence myself to seven hours of reading Chseagle threads.

You will need a certified timer with 40 hours of training to monitor the time you spend.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by biggravy

Since ignorance is no excuse for violating the forum code of honor I sentence myself to seven hours of reading Chseagle threads.

Now that's a bit harsh.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Now that's a bit harsh.

True, but quite funnE

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Now that's a bit harsh.

I was thinking more along the lines of "cruel and unusual"

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by biggravy

On that particular day, I guess folks weren't so pissy and the following answer was provided:

Actually some of us have been pissy for many, many years to the cheating scumbags that come here wanting an early copy of the test and/or the answers. Every single year we go through this. Invariably they always have a good excuse for asking too.

Some states run a closed book, proctored test where you have to attain a certain percentage correct to advance in classifications. If someone posts the exam here early, officials in those states can (and will) take advantage of it. Some have open-book tests on a certain date but also only allow a certain amount of time to complete it. Having the test early obviously is a great advantage there also.

As I said, they're only cheating themselves.

Signed: Pissy Ol' JR

[Scuba_ref]

This year, in both Football and Basketball, Washington State has begun using a 50 question test that is more situational than definitional. In order to properly answer the situational questions you must understand the definitions and then properly apply the rules; a better test in my opinion.

[jritchie]

Is that something you could e'mail to people not from Washington? Sounds like a great tool for practice with situations and rules.

[Scuba_ref]

We typically get a paper copy from the Association - I'll check with them and if okay then I could scan that in and email it to you if you send me your email address, debit card and pin (Mark P. would want me to ask) via pm. Our first meeting is on Nov. 3

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Some have open-book tests on a certain date but also only allow a certain amount of time to complete it. Having the test early obviously is a great advantage there also.

As I said, they're only cheating themselves.

Signed: Pissy Ol' JR

I must have missed something in your argument. How in the heck is it an advantage to take an open book test and get that test early? We used to take this test and I never saw an advantage by having the test early. It was not a secret?

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I must have missed something in your argument. How in the heck is it an advantage to take an open book test and get that test early?

The advantage, obviously, would be that one could look up the answers in advance before taking the actual test.

Having said that, I find it disturbing to think that any official with the most basic rules knowledge would think it necessary to look for an extra advantage to pass an open book test.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The advantage, obviously, would be that one could look up the answers in advance before taking the actual test.

No, it is not obvious. Getting the test in "advance" did not do anything for us. And when you say getting the test in advance, I am not sure what the heck we would be getting the test in advance of? We basically had two months to take the exam and that time was based on when you got the mail.

Originally Posted by just another ref

Having said that, I find it disturbing to think that any official with the most basic rules knowledge would think it necessary to look for an extra advantage to pass an open book test.

I just took a University exam that was open book. The class was a graduate course and me and two others took the exam together. We had to answer 4 questions based on our readings. The teacher told us we could take the exam together if we liked.

I will never understand why people believe the NF test is a testing of rules knowledge. Sorry, but I know what a basketball looks like and I do not need to know the exact circumference of the basketball as I have never measured it personally before a game. If our basketball test is the same as our football one was, then that is a much better test of rules knowledge. Multiple choice (or guess ) and not only must we know what to call, but we must know what we are going to do after the call. I have seen people not even know how to apply a Team Control Foul or a Double Foul because all the so-called test does is test them know what the wording is, but they have no idea how to apply it to the game when called.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I must have missed something in your argument. How in the heck is it an advantage to take an open book test and get that test early? We used to take this test and I never saw an advantage by having the test early. It was not a secret?

Peace

You did miss it; he specifically stated it would be an advantage for those who have a limited time to take the test.